Why Diversity is Killing Us

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  1. Starcastle

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    So when are you moving? Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

    If you think the 10% of the world who are Caucasians are the only ones who have shat on other people and oppressed other people you are incredible ignorant.
     
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    Look at this post. This is democrat party ideology in a nutshell. White people suck! White people are responsible for every problem in the other 90% of the world. So shut up racist!

    Notice no criticism at all of the Chinese and their colonialism and bio weapons.

    When are people going to wake up and stop voting for this hate?
     
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    Do you just make up things with a right-wing spin?

    Diversity just means variety, not that everyone is equal. We had diversity in the 17th century. Was everyone equal? The "diversity" you are complaining about is the variety of subcultures in America. All subcultures are not equal. Some have good qualities and some bad. So, so far your premise is wrong and it doesn't get better.

    "Multicultural societies are politically socially engineered and don’t occur naturally". What does it say on the Statue of Liberty? Something about huddled masses, not just those from western Europe, something our country is based on.

    Where do you get multiculturalism wants to remove national identity? It's aim is to appreciate and be proud of ones particular culture and not discard it and other cultures need appreciated for their good qualities. Your problem seems to be with the darker races. Black History (sic) Months is a distortion of history? Then it's on to complain about various minorities wanting equal opportunity and to be treated fairly. How dare they?

    In conclusion? What is "Cultural Marxism"? It is "a conspiratorial attempt to wreck American culture and morality, its the newest intellectual bugaboo on the radical right..... These supposed originators of "cultural Marxism" are seen as conspiratorial plotters intent on making Americans feel guilty and thus subverting their Christian culture. In a nutshell, the theory posits that a tiny group of Jewish philosophers who fled Germany in the 1930s and set up shop at Columbia University in New York City devised an unorthodox form of "Marxism" that took aim at American society's culture, rather than its economic system."

    I can hear you in my head chanting "they shall not replace us" at the rally, while locked and loaded.
     
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    I should be asking you that question, unless you're a full-blooded native.

    I don't care what other nations/cultures do within their own borders/territories. It is when they extend their stupidity & destructive activities beyond their borders and impose their will on foreign cultures that they become a problem. But Western nations are still imperialist nations that continue to benefit from the plundering & exploitation of resources & cheap labor of foreign nations.

    It's not about "white" people (and I'm white, by the way), it's just that the white culture happens to be over-represented here --- ie, they are the ones responsible for the majority of the destruction & suffering in the world, and for one simple reason: The West continues to conduct itself as an imperialist global power, spreading its parasitic (capitalist) tentacles worldwide.

    Today, Western economic thugs working for state-sponsored corporations continue to threaten or assassinate (if they cannot bribe) foreign leaders to accept their terms. See the following video interview:
    Confronting An Economic Hitman on Our Death Economy w/ John Perkins



    Also recall the words of Major General Smedley Butler in a 1935 speech:

    I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.

    Nothing has changed since.

    The Western powers have a global network & presence spanning decades. The US in particular has around 800 bases in 80 nations & territories around the world. China has only one --- in Djibouti, a naval facility opened in 2017. Unlike the US, China has not pursued an agenda of endless wars, invasions, covert ops, drug trafficking, and plundering of 3rd World resources, but rather has settlements & colonies along its western borders (including Tibet & Mongolia) that are contiguous to China and most likely of strategic importance. The US actively engages in assassinating or overthrowing foreign leaders, as well as covert operations that establish, fund, supply and direct revolutionary & terrorist organizations (eg, Al Kaida, Isis, Taliban, etc.) in order to both destabilize foreign nations and as a pretext for invasion (ie, the fake "war on terror"). China currently does not conduct the typical Western method of violent gun-boat diplomacy, but instead makes trade & construction deals with many nations (including those in Africa & South America) that are of mutual benefit. And don't forget: the British ruled Hong Kong as a colony for 150 years before it was returned to China in 1997. China has never colonized nor invaded any nations of the West. Is it any surprise that, with the West's history of continued & expanding global dominance, China would want to extend its influence now more than ever (just as Russia is now doing)?

    Now, I'm not condoning either the hard-line authoritarian Chinese government, nor its horrible treatment of Tibetans. But there are glaring differences between Chinese & Western foreign policies and how these nations treat other nations.

    Quote: from China's Rapid Rise: From Backward Agrarian Society to Industrial Powerhouse in Just 35 Years [LINK]

    Hence, the reason for China's three failures was clearly not the lack of free market and private-property rights—the Qing dynasty had probably a better market system and better private-property rights than did England and the rest of Europe in the 17th and 18th centuries. Nor was it the lack of democracy—the government of the Republic of China was so inclusive that even members of the Communist Party were allowed in the government.


    What Was Different This Time?
    China's fourth attempt started in 1978 under leader Deng Xiaoping. The country refused to take advice from Western economists (unlike what Russia did in the 1990s) and instead took a very humble, gradualist, experimental approach with its economic reforms. The keys to this approach have been to:
    1. maintain political stability at all costs;
    2. focus on the grassroots, bottom-up reforms (starting in agriculture instead of in the financial sector);
    3. promote rural industries despite their primitive technologies;
    4. use manufactured goods (instead of only natural resources) to exchange for machinery;
    5. provide enormous government support for infrastructure buildup;
    6. follow a dual-track system of government/private ownership instead of wholesale privatization; and
    7. move up the industrial ladder, from light to heavy industries, from labor- to capital-intensive production, from manufacturing to financial capitalism, and from a high-saving state to a consumeristic welfare state.

    As far as bio-weapons, they don't work because "germs" are not effective killers. Not to mention, so-called "viruses" don't even exist, so the "Wuhan lab leak" conspiracy story is bunk. Chemical weapons are more effective, but also rather inefficient, and hence are rarely, if ever, used in wartime.

    I can't speak for others, but for me, I don't hate any people. But I do hate their actions if they deliberately cause needless suffering, or if they support (even if unknowingly) any destructive/violent activities that are state-sponsored. You refuse to address the actions of people unless it suits you. Instead you call it "hate". I can't tell you how many Trumpers have told me, "You just hate Trump", any time I expose his crimes, scandals, character, and violations of office & public trust.

    And how much of this emerged as a result of nations left in shambles following the spread of Western imperialism & capitalism?

    And this, while the US has the highest rate of imprisonment in the world, including forced prison (slave) labor, which is still allowed per the 13th Amendment, on behalf of corporate profiteers. The US also, through its imperialist agenda & state-sponsored corporate thugs, continues to create socio-economic conditions & forced debt on nations all over the world that force their natives & citizenry to live under the soul-killing yoke of capitalism as low-wage (slave) laborers. The US also forced its young citizens into an unnecessary war in Vietnam, resulting in the death of over 50 thousand, and maiming of many more. And let's not forget American workers --- forced to work longer, harder hours for low or stagnating wages in crappier jobs while the cost of living skyrockets. Is this not slavery? We may no longer have chattel slavery, but we still have slavery.
     
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    Republicans think America sucks, that is what MAGA stands for

    When are people going to wake up and stop voting for this hate?
     
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    In a democratic society, why should minorities replace the majority? What is it that’s ‘right wing’ about democracy? Cultural Marxism was only a conspiracy theory to the hard left. It’s where your current identity politics stems from.

    Cultural Marxism, using minority identity politics to destroy traditional values is very real. Marcuse was heavily involved in the hippy movement of the 60’s and Gramsci discovered that if you removed traditional values from society, it would collapse. No surprise today, but it was a bombshell in the late 20th century. No more red flags and barricades, the previous ‘workers’ revolution is gone, it’s now the minorities – the gays, the dispossessed, the feminists, immigrants … They’re the new revolutionaries.

    Every time you see a gay march parade, open borders protest, BLM and Antifa riots, the dumbing down of education, the opioid epidemic… You’re looking at Cultural Marxism. You obviously don’t know this. You have very low-information as a result of your obvious left leaning politics.
     
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    Of course JCS is white. I assumed he was a self hating white man. We have a lot of them in this country. For those with self respect and a spine there is no reason to ever vote for the democrat party in their present manifestation. The democrats are an anti white anti American party pushing a hate filled immoral ideology.

    For those who find white people repulsive there are many countries on this earth with majority black populations and few whites. Why not move to one? Haiti is not far. A country run entirely by black people. Like Baltimore!

    The Democratic republic of the Congo might be a good spot. Not even 1% of their more than 100 million people are white.

    https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/congo-democratic-republic-of-the/#economy

    A much more moral place than white racist AmeriKKKa! Of course half the women in the Congo have been raped, really raped not just groped. The per capita GDP is $1100 and the poverty rate is about everybody. None of that white capitalism!
     
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    This is a resounding effort to divert the truth.
    And does nothing to change the facts held in history.
     
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    By the way blaming white people for the problems of the world and bragging about colonialism is a white supremacist argument.

    White people are just 10% of the world's population so to be able to dominate, manipulate and oppress the other 90% white people would have to be superior and supreme. Inferior less intelligent people do not dominate and oppress more intelligent people. Duh.

    So as a white person I say thank you.
     
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    They hate themselves and where they live. Never, never in a million years would these self hating democrats want to live in a black neighborhood much less a black country.
     
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    Notwithstanding the rant, you too are diverting the truth by suggesting others look in another direction, usually less developed as a relevant comparison.
    Do you or do you not accept cultural responsibility for the actions of your own race?
     
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    Why would I have to be responsible for an entire race? That is the dumbest thing. I did not enslave anybody but they are doing that in China right now and democrats do not give a damn.

    Oh Biden and Kamala have white ancestors who owned slaves. Why not ask them to take responsibility?

    If you are bragging that white people are so awesome that a tiny number can control, dominate and oppress entire countries you are right and that makes you a supremacist.

    Why do I have to accept these lies that white people invented the idea of treating people badly? No they did not. That's like saying there would be no murder in the world except for white people. How retarded.
     
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    Many in fact do live in "Black communities".
    Instead of hating themselves, à grossly generalised accusation that goes way past their acceptance is that white has not always been right.
    It is a truth that white people have been more than active forcover 1000vyezrd in attempts to 8nvade, etace indigenous culture and impose their own, starting with the Crusades and into the middle of the 20th century in Africa. Including the long period of European colonialism which included the near extermination of the indigenous culture of the people who previously lived where you do now.
    Happily it is now recognised for what it was . The only rump of colonising left are the small number of missionaries.
     
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    Who.
    I think you should reread my post.
    It is you who accusé those who find fault with white aggression as being self hating. It is me who say that they are NOT perfect while it is YOU who dont like hearing that.
    No one said white people INVENTED cultural appropriation. They have said they have indulged in it.
    It is not hating your own culture to admit it had serious issues and made huge mistakes.
    IMO it is a good thing that it has been recognised as wrong and that white people have stopped colonising and controlling other cultures. Shows they can learn respect for other cultures even if it took 1000 years and à lot of pain and death .
     
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    You prove me right.

    It is not just acknowledging bad things people have done in the past but these people and yourself obsess about them. Of course they were wrong that is why we fought entire wars over them. Nobody close to me or connected to me had anything to do with this so no I'm not owning it.

    You make it all about race. So because I'm the same race as Ted Bundy I should be ashamed of his murders?

    "Colonizing and controlling other cultures". There you go with the supremacy and superiority again. Why are those other cultures not colonizing and controlling white people if they are equal?
     
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    Excuse me but I don't obsess about race.
    And you have swerved off your original accusation that criticising white people is proof of self loathing.
    This is another trope put about by those who prefer white people and hopes to make those who recognise mistakes white people have made, feel guilty.
    I have never asked you to be responsible for history. I am replying to your assumption that white people are better than other people.
    They are not. They have been as aggressive and culturally arrogant as anyone else.
    And when you can accept that, you will stop accusing white people of self loathing and see that they are just being honest.
     
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    "Fault with aggression"?

    In what post did I ever justify people doing shitty things to other people based on any motivation? Making crap up.

    We fought a war to end slavery and keep our country whole. We fought the Japanese and Germans to end their "aggression" and murder. We were a beacon and model for freedom and democracy in the entire world.

    Start a damn thread talking about what pieces of **** the Japanese are for all their atrocities just 75 years ago before you lecture me about 1619.
     
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    What do you mean by being "equal"?
    When other cultures move into yours, they are criticised for trying to change it. The most extrême call it the great replacement theory.
    Which is of course exactly what white people have been doing for 1000 years.
     
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    Oh do stop redefining the subject.
    I am challenging your accusation that those who criticise white peoples history are self loathing.
    That idea is an old dusty trope often used by those who defend White is Right no matter what.
    The rest of your post is nothing to do with the subject. It is just an emotional and defensive outburst .
     
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    You absolutely did.

    You said I need to take responsibility for bad things white people have done. You said it point blank. And then to make your silly argument you have to pretend(lie) that I am somehow an apologist for slavery or oppression when I said nothing of the kind.

    White self loathing? You proved it! It is one thing to say a country might take responsibility for sins of the past but you racialized it. White people and only white people need to take responsibility for every damn bad thing white people have done.

    The Japanese murdered and raped millions just 75 years ago. 10 million Chinese were murdered and many more raped tortured and beaten. Libos would not hold them responsible for what happened just 75 years ago but as a white man I need to be ashamed about some Indian being displaced in 1715 or some slaves being brought here in 1619. Really? No self loathing there.
     
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    The entire ideology is self hate something that is entirely unique among white people. Climate change is grounded in self hate. Only white people need to be responsible for CC! The Saudis can drill all the oil they want.

    Acknowledging history is fine who doesn't? Being critical of people who treated others like merde? Why wouldn't I? I have never not been critical. But obsessing about it is wrong. Saying that I'm responsible for things other people did is wrong.

    1619 is now some banner date for slavery in America and we are supposed to hate ourselves for it even though there will be no USA for almost 150 years. . So let Spain and the UK pay reparations then.
     
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    Oh for heavens saké. Get back to me when you understand the discussion.
    I said ALL white people should RECOGNISE what white people did.
    And they are not self loathing.
    And I never mentioned what other cultures should do. In fact since they all did it, it was you who tried to place more blame on them who behaved in exactly the same way white people did. You tried to whitewash white people.
    Recognising the similar behaviour in white people is not self loathing, as you tried to validité your common trope. It is recognising truth.
    And do stop misreading my posts and running off in all directions.
    Let me repeat.
    RECOGNISING THAT WHITE PEOPLE APPROPRIATED AND ATTEMPTED TO CHANGE OTHER CULTURES IS NOT SELF LOATHING.
    IT IS BEING HONEST.

    This was my point and remains so.
    What Japan has to do with this is unknown.
     
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    Another libo tactic used is clumping all white people together as some monolithic group. You saw what she wrote. I need to take responsibility for what some people did because I happen to be white and so were they. But look how she wrote it.

    So it was not just bad people doing something wrong who happened to be white. It was the entire white race being evil.
     
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    I have no idea what this meandering post is about.
    You said criticising white history is self hate.
    I said it isn't.
    The rest is your ample adornment of the issue for no visible purpose.
     

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