Why do atheist groups and individuals have to be so vulgar???

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  1. yguy

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    an idiot's delight. Had you ever understood anything about Christianity, you'd understand that.

    You have me confused with someone else.

    Which of course it isn't; but that aside, I am and will be utterly unperturbed by whatever verbal brickbats you and your comrades toss my way, trust me. :wink:
     
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    Mostly rage.

    the fellow that presents for secular talk also belongs to a group called The Young Turks and this is a news commentary like thing on YouTube and they're quite vulgar very condescending and unpleasant people.

    with regard to secular sort of things I recommend Sargon of akkad also Jeff holiday they seem to be liberal can be vulgar from time to time. For atheist things look into The Telltale atheist he talks about mostly religion he is a former religious person himself he's very intelligent and even though he talks about things he doesn't approve of his quite respectful and he's quite an artist.
     
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    so it's about a pound of Flesh it seems the rational thing to do would be to drop it
     
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    I do enjoy some vulgar atheist entertainment like the Amazing Atheist on youtube, but I know what you mean. There's something to be said for the more dignified approach of say, AronRa. I don't see either one as being wrong necessarily. People have been making crude jokes since the dawn of time, and the absence of religion just gives us one less reason to fight it. It can derail discussion and distract from the point however.
     
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    I have no problem with the beliefs but atheist prosletyzing is no different than that of the religious.
     
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    If it happens at all, it's probably about 1% as common as christian proselytizing.
     
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    Perhaps but not on the internet.
     
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    Concern trolls troll shocker!
     
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    It was something similar to this that may have sparked off the Charlie Hebdo attack. A disrespectful caricature of prophet Mohammad on slap stick magazines. Charlie Hebdo, the magazine association, is known for its mockery caricature.

    www.google.com/search?q=charlie+hebdo&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=nsmiv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjisM_b89DaAhUNB3wKHVIsC_oQ_AUIFCgE&biw=360&bih=560


    Persons are using Constitutional freedom of speech and freedom of press disrespectfully.

    These drawings have a very non-professional, or blue blood, quality to them.
     
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    Atheism is vulgar because religion and our puritanical society are intertwined deeply. Lots of religious types think their **** doesn't stink and would like to pretend their genitals aren't really there. What better way to grab the attention of the devout than to depict god's testicles in a drawing? It humanizes god, which is exactly the point atheists are trying to make. God is what we say he is, because he is something invented by humans.
     
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    If.... somebody with the capabilities of Helen Wambach Ph. D. were to regress Richard Dawkins Ph. D. through hypnosis to what he would perceive as "past lives" he would almost certainly view images and feelings that would explain his anger against the idea of G-d as it was presented to him by terribly poor theologians.

    It is possible that he might view himself as a Choir Boy in a past life............ or something along that line that would make sense out of his extreme anger against the G-d of the Christian Bible..... as taught by Christian theologians.......
    I became an Atheist around eight years of age two years after hearing Dr. Billy Graham do a hellfire and brimstone sermon on TV back in 1966.
     
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    It is curious isn't it? If someone is an atheist, I would think the normal human reaction would be to ignore religion. Some atheists just can't go through life without trying to get others to believe as they do. Religion doesn't hurt them. They just can't stand to see other people take a different view from theirs. It is much like the battles between the political left and right. I think it is a human weakness.

    Personally I don't use religion or harbor religious beliefs at all but I'm glad others do. Religion is a foil against immorality and immorality causes chaos. I would far prefer to live in a world with religion than one without it.
     
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    Its the internet buddy. People are often vulgar on the internet. I have seen vulgarity from atheists, religious people, Trump supporters and liberals. Secular Talk isn't a very popular channel with videos averaging only about 20K views and is mostly focused on politics not religion. I haven't heard that much more vulgarity from it than I have seen from other YouTube channels. In fact the channel is a bit boring to be honest.
     
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    The ONLY reason that I am good, or even try to be good, is because I believe in God.
    I obey God because I want things from God.
    I obey God because I am left to believe that obedience to God is what is in MY best interest.
     
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    I expect atheists to be vulgar, to use that kind of language, and to be insulting and ugly. No religion that tries to incorporate a moral center. Now, I have known some atheists, while in college,that were very moral people, and they were not that much different from religious people with their morality. But one gets the sense, if you use online, the Net, that such atheists are the exception rather than the rule. My perception, anyways, and of course I could be wrong.

    An exemplar atheist, IMO, is Sam Harris. He has a moral center, regardless of religion and gets there by rationality, reason and logic.

    The good thing about some religion, IMO, is this teaching of morality. No, they are not perfect people, and they even have their own vulgar and ********s. But the christians that I personally interact with daily, are good, moral, decent human beings. They don't even use profanities. At least not in conversation.

    I don't care where morality comes from, I just understand how important it is for it to be present and used in any human society. It is a social lube, as is the speech you use when interacting with others, face to face. Nothing worse IMO, than a militant atheists or a militant christian. I look for an exit anytime I find myself in the presence of either. ha ha
     
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    Just the ones you CHOOSE to watch.....:)
     
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    Are you saying you are really a rotten person and only respect others and their rights because you imagine there's a god? Is that what you're saying?


    I don't believe in any god and I'm not a rotten person.....

    There are those that believe in god and rape children.....how do you account for them?
     
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    Difference: A car is real.
     
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    Disclaimer: I am, in fact, an atheist.

    The quick and dirty answer is that they are trolls.
     
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    SOME atheists want to convert.....most atheists don't give a crap, they mind their own business...


    Some believers want to convert atheists......

    I personally have NEVER tried to dissuade anyone from believing but wow have a few tried to get me to switch....
     
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    NOTHING more vulgar than raping children and protecting the rapist and hiding the rapist and giving him "fresh fields" to plunder.....
     
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    That's exactly what I'm saying, but you can go further than that if you'd like. I'm also saying that the only reason that I make any attempt to obey God, or have any desire to be like God, is because I think that is what is in my best interest. I am a Christian because I think that having faith in Jesus Christ is what is in my best interest. Period. It's no more complicated then that.

    Jesus acknowledged that, if he did not go to the cross, we would remain dead from our sin:
    but he also made it abundantly clear that he did not go to the cross to save us. He made it clear that he went to the cross because he believed that obedience to the Father, even obedience to death, even death on a cross, was what was in his best interest. Jesus made is quite clear that he went to the cross for the "glory and the joy" set before him. The Father sent Jesus to save us, but Jesus, himself, went to the cross out of his own self interests.

    God created out of His own self interest. Indeed, before God created, there were no other interests.

    Acting in one's own self interest is a Godly, it is a Christlike, quality. Now, that written, we are most often dead wrong about what is actually in our own self interest. Being selfish is just being wrong about what is actually in your self interest. One thing I can tell you, that can help narrow it down is that, when you act in your own self interest, it will always benefit others. If you do what in your very best self interest, it will have the maximum benefit to others.
     
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    Capitalism is an economic system wherein individuals act according to their own self interests to the benefit of others.
     
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    The right to be vulgar is guaranteed by the US Constitution.
     
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    That's not exactly what you posted :

    bricklayer said:
    The ONLY reason that I am good, or even try to be good, is because I believe in God.

    I obey God because I want things from God.
    I obey God because I am left to believe that obedience to God is what is in MY best interest.""""""



    I think it's rather pathetic to be "good" to get something....it isn't true goodness'

    and I know people who don't believe in a god who are TRULY good because they are good on the inside not because they want something.




    You: """Acting in one's own self interest is a Godly, it is a Christlike, quality.""""


    Oh do tell that to those who think having an abortion is selfish.
     
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