Why Do Euros/Lazy Liberals Think 60 hours a week is a big deal?

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  1. Murikawins

    Murikawins Banned at Members Request

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    If you work in the finance industry it's standard, you work in the upper echelons of finance 80+ hours per week is standard. And you reap the exponential rewards of doing so. What is the big deal about working this many hours? Where I work, if you whine about your hours then you may as well just quit; they don't want lazy people like yourself (whining liberals).

    Perhaps the indignant attitude of Euros towards work is why they're society is decadent and being phased out in importance?
     
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    The purpose of our lives is not to please the capitalist pigs working as much as they like, anything more than 30 hours per week is inhuman .
    Latest OECD data shows Murkans are on the lazy side , you may wanna read some data before start spewing nonsense.
     
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    Remind me never, ever, to work in finance. I work in order to live; insects live in order to work.
     
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    Why would you want to live like that?

    Its not a question of lazyness, its about whether you want to waste your life earning money to buy stuff that you dont need.
     
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    It's about productivity, not how long you're sitting at a desk, or arriving at work at 6.00am to impress the boss. Europeans work fewer hours but produce the same or more, per capita, as Americans http://www.spiegel.de/international...anslate-to-greater-productivity-a-643900.html
     
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    No, no they don't. We are 7th in the world, the only European nations higher than us, are Luxembourg, Norway, and Switzerland.

    The mainstays of the EU economy, France, U.K., Italy, Spain and Germany, are $9,000 or more below us.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Read the link I provided. Tiny Luxemburg, for example, with 32 days average paid leave, is 27% more productive than America. Statisticss for Der Spiegel provided by Business Week.
     
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    No, it likely means they have two jobs. Like Thomas Sowell did, who called it the "happiest period of his life" when he had both a part-time and full-time job, as it meant he could eat and ride the subway to work and back.

    People work their hours, based on their needs
     
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    It depends how much one is being paid. If the pay was good and I had plenty of opportunity to move up, I would not mind working 60 hours so much. But for a lower paying job, especially a less pleasant one, I would only be willing to work 40 hours.

    60 hours is hard work though, I think it would consume nearly all my life.

    If low paid workers are limited by the government to protect them from exploitation, I think the limit should be 50 hours. But we also have to consider low income people forced into working two part time jobs, because neither employer wants to give them benefits. Is there a point in limiting a job to 50 hours a week, when another worker has to work 60 hours a week in two jobs?
     
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    Wow, they can run an economy the size of my closet. Palm beach, larger the Luxembourg smashes their face in though. Per capita is over a million per person there. Can we match our rich neighborhoods against yours? Want to take on Hollywood per capita income? Watch it Euro. You got single digit populations not of European descent and it is driving you mad. Deal with some diversity, try to work a full day, quit with the protectionism and we will pull our troops out of Europa and lets see how you do. As far as I am concerned you all got a lot of nerve talking smack about a country whose teet you have been nursing yourselves on for the last 50 years or so.
     
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    If generating profits for your master makes you feel good you may wanna also try some bondage or even better slavery.
    HAHA yeah i stand in the way to exploitation .
    You expect humility by a European in his interaction with colonials ? talking about losing connection with reality...

    If working is living a life then being born into the Homo Sapient species was an unfortunate event .
     
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    Who I already listed, and I can wave off. Why? Because they're a tiny micro-state that take advantage of their status as a tax haven and under the table multinational banking. Kim Jung-il was said to have kept his bank accounts there.

    But really, their success, predicated on finance, is maintained by their neighbors just being stupid. The moment the rest of the EU wises up, they go down.
     
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    Considering the colonies have long since outstripped their European Progenitors in economic output and military might... pretty much, yeah.
    Did you know Brazil is a bigger economy than Russia? Or Mexico, Spain?

    Europe is just going to be left "in the dust bin of history" if it doesn't change its tune soon.

    Earning what you have? Bettering oneself through their chosen craft? Take that over mind-numbing Stalinist-flavored slavery, thank you.
     
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    In the build-up of the British war machine after Dunkirk, workers voluntarily started putting in 60+ hours at the war production factories. The government made them scale it back after they started leaving fingers on the floors of the machine shops. There is a limit to how much physical labor a man can perform before he starts losing his edge and either screws up the job or suffers adverse health effects.

    NOBODY should ever work more hours than it is safe to work, especially if most of the wealth they create is reaped by a handful of arrogant leaches making two or three hundred times as much per hour.

    Who but a bean counter cares what kind of hours financial sector people are willing to work? They can retire early if they choose. If they want to work until they do a face plant on their desks, well, it is their lives they have wasted.
     
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    Economic output that goes on foodstamps and purchasing private insurances yeah! Also responsible to fight our wars (Yugoslavia / Libya ) AND pay for them.

    Brazil has 50m more people than Russia , Mexico has over 100m more people than Spain , what is next comparing USA with Greece ?

    "Earning what you have" in capitalism = generating profit for your boss and getting a pittance from the product of your labour.

    Stalinist? heh i am mostly a Menshevik .
     
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    Is that how you thank the nation that makes pretty much all the medical breakthroughs? There's a reason we've been so dominant in the Noble Prize in Medicine.

    I mean even the innovations the Europeans make, tends to come out of the 300,000 Europe residents that do all their research in the U.S., seeing as how the equipment they need only tends to exist here.

    Russia used to have more, but their population has been in free-fall since the mid-90's.

    Australia and Canada are also bigger, yet they have 10-20 million less. And we, the U.S., will be the #1 economy in world by 2016, surpassing the struggling EU, despite having, oh, 200 million less people, and far less resources.

    That can only happen because the EU is doing something wrong.

    Which just makes our impending Economic usurpation all the more embarrassing. We fight the wars, and you still can't keep up.

    Can go into business for yourself, though for many, it just makes you realize what the Boss was actually contributing. What administrators do may be abstract, but it's still labor.

    Menshevik was friendly with Liberals, you show nothing but disdain.
     
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    Its the same with all gamblers - obsessive, this use of other people's money. Most of us, however, have lives to lead.
     
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    The way I see it is that these are the best years of my life. When I retire, I will travel less and in general do less, so why spend the years of my life when I can backpack around the world and go to gigs in other countries, spend time drinking in pubs, cycle and be active, working excessively?

    It litterally makes no sense! And I'm a contractor, paid by the hour. I could chose work which allows me to work 50-60 hours a week and have in my 20's worked up to 84 a week. Never again! And as for parents, what a social disaster waiting to happen when these kids have parents working these hours!

    Here in the NL, it's frequent for parents to work 32 hours a week, allowing them to spend time raising kids (I thought proper parenting was part of the Right's philosophy?????). Study after study shows that the NL is the best place on the planet for raising kids. This is not coincidence.

    Once again the US Right tells us two things, which directly conflict. a) Work more and more hours and b) Parent your kids properly.
     
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    This is ridiculous. Someone working 3 9 hour days a week (27hrs) is only 3 hrs away from being treated inhumanely in your eyes? If you think 30 hrs a week is inhuman, I'm curious of how many hours per week you think is "fair"?

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    That's the beauty of it, you don't have to. Some people enjoy their work so much its not like work to them, some people enjoy making money so much, the time is worth it to them.
     
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    If the government didn't take 40% of your pay through wage taxes, taxes on your employment, regulations that decrease the value of your productivity, sales taxes, property taxes, fuel taxes, excise taxes, state income taxes for some of you suckers, obamacare taxes, license fees, and compliance costs you wouldn't need to work 60 hours a week.

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    He is a greek communist. A 5 hour day is a bit excessive. There is decay to watch.

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    Who is that, government?
     
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    And I am sure the employer will see that, and schedule accordingly. Lets not blanket judge the world and make them live by it with a silly law though. I bolded why your argument fails. Germans are more dangerous then on the job accidents, and those workers knew it.

    Who gets to decide that, and how long a person can work? A bean counter behind a desk?

    A bean counter working overtime apparently. My bad.
     
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    Where is NL? Is it a real country, like the US?
     
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    How should one determine what one's labor is worth? Less reward at the top, means less drive to achieve, which means slower progress. I see both sides here and also the need for both sides to exist. People with views similar to yours need people with views similar to mine to counterbalance, or check them (vice-versa as well). Without it power would flow too much to one side and corruption would run rampant.
     
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    Have you ever tried to google? Or use Wikipedia? It's a wonderful tool.

    Anyways, NL is a ISO 3166 code for the Netherlands.
     
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    & we add maybe another hour for one way travel time :eyepopping:(& please don't say you sleep on top of your desk):eyepopping:.

    By my calc:

    You have "<<SIX HOURS per DAY" in a working week to:

    • Eat three times a day.
    • Sleep
    • Bath
    • Shave
    • Dress
    • & last but not least & assuming you are honest with your employer: Participate in this political forum as you do during the work week.





    Does something seem screwy to you?

    No?

    I didn't think so.

    :roflol: ROTFLMAO :roflol:

    Best Regards

    Lobato1


     

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