Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

Apuzo is a crank who has been slightly crooked his whole law career.

Here's what you want.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

You have not read the cases you cited and you don't know what they are about.. Neither does Apuzzo.. He's a parrot.

 

This is the section of the book that almost all the Framers in the Pennsylvania State House owned or read in the original French during the drafting of the new U.S. Constitution. There are historical letters and documents, from the time frame, confirming their agreement and intent to use the language from Vattel's Law of Nations.

You can stomp your feet and scream "nuuhh uuhh" all you want, but these are the facts anyone can research.

Emer de Vattel, The Law of Nations, Or, Principles of the Law of Nature, Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns, with Three Early Essays on the Origin and Nature of Natural Law and on Luxury - 1758




§ 212. Of the citizens and natives.
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“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, ornatural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”


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The statutes define the broader concepts in the Constitution.. I take it that you never took even the most basic law courses.

Read the statutes..

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

 

Good point, if Eisenhower in 1952 had to produce a BC to run for President, why wasn't Obama ordered to produce one in 2008??? Eisenhower was born in Denison, Tx, not South Texas and mid-wives would have had no reason to falsify births, prior to welfare. I did live in Kingsville, Texas (65% Hispanic) for many years and knew many that held falsified CoB and yes, on welfare. Additionally 65 MW found guilty of falsifying reports from 1960 onward, is proof enough, the practice was real. Hawaii would have been no different, primarily for Asian's....

 

Demonstrated as false.

Never even seen he BC.

Proven lie. I've shown you 2

 

Nope. You've been shown how and why you wre wrong. There are only 2 types of citizen defined in US law. Natural born and naturalized. That's it. There is no mysterious third type.

 

Nope. The law of nations didn't contain the words natural born citizen until 10 years after the constitution was written. And it's irrelevant anyway. The law of nations is not the constitution.

 

Yes he has, he saw the one posted on the White House website. You can't claim that Obama was based on the birth certificated posted by the White House, and then claim that nobody has seen the birth certificate.

 

You are correct.

Concerning the Law of Nations

http://www.constitution.org/cmt/law_of_nations.htm

This is what you often get with people who are "self taught".

 

Right. Like I said, he's never seen the document.

I didn't. The original as well as the copies were authenticated by the director of the department of health. None of your people you cite as experts, which they aren't, have actually seen the document in order to make the determination.

 

Well using your logic there is no proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.

 

Right, but the document the White House has produced has been determined to be a fraud by certified document experts.

 

Except for the actual birth certificate authenticated by the state of Hawaii.

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Nope.......

 

What federal government agency will accept a computer image as proof for identification? May an individual use a computer image on their SmartPhone as ID before boarding a plane, buying prescription drugs, cigarettes, liquor, opening a bank account, etc.?

Of course not, because they are so easy to fake. But the Obots claim an exemption for their messiah because that is all he has provided and to release his real B.C. now and have it look totally different with different data in the fields would make them all have to eat humble pie.

 

Do you have a passport? Obama has had one since 1967.. He had to prove his place of birth.. or his mother did.. That requires a BC.. NOW, open your passport and see what it says on the back of the front cover.

 

All trees are plants but not all plants are trees.

 

Which according to you nobody has ever seen.

 

FYI, Margot2 you are on my ignore list and I don't open your posts, your posts just aren't worth it.

 

Birthers, like truthers and those who believe aliens built ancient civilizations will never change since they ignore facts and reality. They follow supposed experts who fail to prove anything but use big confusing words to their followers.

 

You don't even comprehend the graphic, do you? I am sorry but its pathetically obvious that you have little education and you have NEVER had a passport.

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I don't blame you, but do read the inside cover of your passport. Ignoring me won't change your ignorance.

 

Nope. Fukino, fuddy and Onaka have seen it and authenticated it.

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Only 2 types of citizen. Natural born and naturalized. That's it. There is no mysterious third type.

 

Actually, none of them ever said they saw a birth certificate, only "documents on file". Fuddy is dead, Fukino and Onaka should be very nervous. So, all we have to prove he is was born in Hawaii is the word of two people. That is not good enough. You are a fool to base your beliefs on the word of two people who have a vested interest.

 

Obama has had a US passport since 1967.. Now look into the front cover of YOUR passport and find out where you were born.

 

Nope.

Why would they be nervous?

Nope. We have his birth certificate, authenticated by those three people.

Of course it is. That's why he was elected to office twice. Nobody cares what moronic things birthers have to say. They are beyond irrelevant.
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Doubling down on stupid again. What vested interest does a REPUBLICAN appointee have in conspiring to elect a democrat?

Lol, birthers.

 

I get the feeling that you have not watched the videos or looked at any of the evidence which proves that birth certificate a fraud. Any reasonable person would agree that it is a fraud after looking at the evidence. You are letting your biases get in the way of reason and logic. This is a serious matter and people like you are unwitting accomplices in the defrauding of the American public to include yourself. This will haunt President Obama after he is out of office because eventually the truth will come out.