Why do we have so much off shoring of jobs?

we have so much off shoring of US jobs because our government got paid off by global corporations.

 

At reasonable profits, they have to compete among themselves here too you know. It is more expensive for companies to operate here than over there, simple economics. Make it less expensive to operate here.

If they did then why are our corporations some of the most regulated and most taxed in the world. Why don't the pay 0% corporate taxes and no Social Security matches and no EPA regulations no excise taxes and on and on and on?

Like when they passed Obamacare? Like when the tax them at or near the highest in the world. Like when they pass restrictive regulations.

I'll give you a clue, American companies would like nothing more than to be able to produce their products and have a healthy wealthy middle class to purchase those products. It is government believing it can micromanage and regulate them into the ground that has killed jobs and the middle class here.

Then I am sure you have invested heavily your retirement funds into these companies that are getting OBSCENELY wealthy so you will have a lot of wealth when your retired. And BTW can you cite me some of these companies that are getting OBSCENELY wealthy I'd like to get some of my money into them.

What do you have against greed. You don't shop for low prices? Ever sold your house? Did you tell the agent not to sell it for as much as they can. Ever sold a car and told the buyer their offer was too high? When you go into a store and the sign says 20% off do you tell them no you want to pay retail so you don't appear greedy, just think of all those workers who suffer because you won't to pay less than retail.

 

Labor is 10-20%. This cost increase in the us could be offset with reduction of logistics cost, tax and red tape burdens.

 

One place they will never move to is Haiti. They are still ticked off that they defeated the French over 200 years ago.

 

You just described the opening salvo of the slow motion tsunami which is being described as "technological unemployment".
A perfect storm is brewing as a result of the confluence of advanced robotics, Moore's Law, artificial intelligence and the economies of scale.
Every year is a decade in today's high tech environment and in ten years it's very likely that a "Bicentennial Man" style "helper" will be made available as a substitute for cheap labor to do any job it can learn and manage with its body and brain.
Chances are good that within a short span of time rapid adoption will force the price of such a unit down to that of a luxury SUV.
Not even the cheapest sweatshop labor force on the planet will be able to compete with that.
Enter a period where GLOBAL unemployment rapidly hits fifty percent.

It will completely destroy the concept of capitalism itself.
And it's a Pandora's Box which was created BY the very corporations that sought out all these "trade agreements".
Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
With half the global workforce unemployed, few will be able to afford to BUY all the goods being churned out, even BASIC goods.

The oligarchs will have made their bed, and now they will have to sleep in it, or change it to something which allows more people to continue the consumer revenue stream that they depend on so much.

It all boils down to a massive refutation of the right wing "trickle down theory" that has swamped us for the last four decades.
It all boils down to Will Rogers:

 

If they keep (*)(*)(*)(*)ing that chicken, someone else will begin to pay attention to Haiti instead.
Think about it...a base of operations a mere 700 miles off the United States mainland.
If we don't do something to help Haiti, and I mean really actually HELP them, they might just become the focal point for ISIS, or any other terrorist group with dreams of being able to attack North America.

What do they have to fear? Bombing the place into the Stone Age, it's already there.
Wiping out the population? So what, ISIS could care less, they're already making do in a region which is 90% sand and rocks and little else.
Destroying the economy? What's the economy like in Aleppo?
Three billion dollars in oil and drug money would stand ISIS up as THE prevailing government in Haiti in two weeks time, and provide it with the economic muscle to bend the population to its will. Haiti is only a nation of ten million souls, half of them children.
To them, a three billion dollar army might as well be a three hundred billion dollar army...three billion dollars is a sum they can barely get their minds wrapped around.

 

Because Democrats decided that work is too hard and dangerous for Americans plus American profits are evil greed.

 

Why should Labor be subject to the whims of capitalists who get tax breaks for labor's wages.

Socialism should be bailing out capitalism by pickup up capitalism's slack regarding full capital employment in the market for labor.

If social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour by comparison, then unemployment compensation can pay fourteen dollars an hour with welfare picking up the rest; and a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.

 

Competition between major corporations is non existent. The major corporations collude to monopolize the markets and maximize profits. The increase in corporate profits and CEO pay is testimate to the corruption in our system.

Corporations do not pay any taxes whatsoever. Anyone who says they do is a absolute liar. It is the people who purchase goods and services, and employees who pay the taxes. Do you really think that Payroll taxes are not figured into a workers wage when they are hired? Are you really that naïve? Rich people do not pay anything, that is why they get continually richer while the working class get continually poorer.

I will give you a clue, the corporations would like nothing better that to completely enslave the people and to steal every penny they earn so that they die pennyless and even pass debt onto their children ensuring their enslavement. Oh wait they are already doing this......

Actually I am not, Only a fool would be invested in the stock of Corporations at this time when the economy they have created by smoke and mirrors is getting ready to collapse. As the criminal CEO's borrow money to purchase stock and boost stock price to enrichen themselves, they are creating a crisis for the pension funds and retirees who will be wiped out in the next crash.

The wealth people today have ruined the middle class and are bankrupting the country. When the people have nothing left to loose they will rise up and tear the house down. The wealthy are too greedy and too stupid to understand that.

I have nothing against greed, greed is good. What I have a real problem with is irrational greed. Irrational greed is the kind of blind greed that makes people think they can win too much and not leave anything for anyone else. A wise man knows it is possible to win too much and leave your opponent nothing to loose, and when that happens you are in danger of destroying the entire game.

 

Like how moving from a human labor agricultural system to a machine based one destroyed the economy? I don't recall it did. It gave that labor the opportunity to move to higher less back breaking jobs.

 

No they do not but if they do then charge them with a crime, they compete and they compete heavily against each other.

They pay huge amounts of taxes, corporate profit taxes, employment taxes, excise taxes, fees, property taxes, and on and on.

But here is the fact, if you are going to just start branding people whom have differences of opinions with you as liars then this stops here and now and gets you reported for violating posting rules.

 

I'd agree with you about rich people. They pay plenty in taxes.

I disagree, however, about businesses. I don't know if you're left or right leaning, but the idea that businesses just pay taxes on their profit at the end of the year couldn't be further from the truth. Taxes are nothing more than a cost of doing business for your average company, and they're accounted for when decisions are made.

 

Gotta wonder the difficulty of certain types of labor transitioning to other types of labor? For example, where do true farmers and/or farm workers transition to as automation takes the place of human labor? Farmers are typically rural while the higher-tech jobs are mostly urban...how do you uproot these people from ancestral lands and move them into the cities? The kids in these cases who go to college or quickly move to urban areas will evolve quickly but this can still leave millions of Americans hopelessly stuck between then and now...

 

Taxes are a cost of doing business and they are an expense, but no matter, the cash to pay taxes could be better used elsewhere...and the consumer benefits when goods and services are less expensive due to less taxation. Just depends on where in the grand scheme of things government wishes to extract the taxes? IMO our tax problem in the USA is the federal government spending $4 TRILLION per year! As well as many local governments over-spending. If we extract taxation from consumers then GDP suffers...if we extract it from industry then business suffers...why is it so evil and impossible today to greatly reduce government spending?