LOL that bring up a friend of mine who needed to be driven to a court hearing and when I went over to drive him I found that he been dead at least for a few days and smelling from decay. Now then if he would had come back from that state I would turn into a believer although in what god I am not sure of as most gods in the history of mankind have the power to bring back the dead long before the Jesus stories of him raising the dead. Love that you add that the non-believers was being tormented beyond belief. If there is such a god he is a complete ******* in human terms to punished those that dare to not place beliefs in the afterlife due to their logic and intellect not buying into some religion and the afterlife connected with it. Oh it would be funny at least to me if it was the god Hades you will one day run into an he is so annoyed at the countless Christians that he is the one doing the torturing.
I probably will waste my time, and no reflection against you ... but I have done this in the past ... True story The war in Korea broke out. My uncle Gene was here in the SF Bay area on leave ahead of the war and had returned to Japan. Nobody knew he was shipped to Korea the moment war broke out and we were very ignorant of Korea and things like their time zones. Mom suddenly came wide awake and woke up Dad. Gene appeared to her she told Dad and she saw him in her vision where Gene was face down in a rice paddy. Gene told her he died fast and was in a good place. And not to worry about him. Mom was alarmed. Mom did not want to accept it. Mom had this take place earlier with other relatives. She had never been wrong. We got a notice from the then War. Dept later on. And about 6 months later, the Army shipped his body back for burial. For years I knew all about her story. I finally located the Army reports where he got killed. The report states men in the engineers were to blow up the bridge over the river and return to the unit. Gene was one of the Engineers. They fell back after blowing the bridge to a rice paddy. They came under heavy fire per the report. The time of the report matched my Moms story as did the rice paddy. Mom was a smart woman but did not know much if anything about South Korea. All in all, mom was visited by her sister upon death, her father upon his death and an aunt in Oklahoma when she died. This never happened to me but when you meet a person it has happened to, you have to admit you get new information and it ought to be taken seriously.
I get it that you believe in a good number of GODS. All over the place. Some doing this and others doing that. I have only mentioned the Creator. I am not one bit sure if we have one or perhaps a huge family of creators. Those coming back from being dead do mention other beings but keep speaking of the Creator. And some bring up Jesus. One said he worked as hard as he could to see GOD's face but was not allowed to gaze on his face. Maybe he is very hot. I only reported what you saw in the video. It was not my concoction at all. I have tried to end telling you what GOD is and letting others explain it in their words. Not all spoke of anybody being tormented. But keep in mind that those speaking of torment had lived a rugged life where they admitted they were not the cream of the crop and it might be that causing the talk of torment.
Yeah, I used to think like that as a teenager. Hey, come to think of it, now that Dick Clark has assumed earth temperature, maybe you qualify as America's Oldest Teenager. It's a plenty big deal, because without God and those who believe in Him, we wouldn't have a Constitution with a religious test clause, an establishment clause and a free exercise clause; and without God and those who believe in Him, all that will surely go the way of the Romanovs.
Well, yes. I concede your points. I simply meant that it wasn't a big deal on a case by case basis in regards to individual humans. Your personal mileage may vary.
Pointing out what a monster a god as portray in the bible would be is no indication that we buy into those stories and strangely I think you know that and are just playing dishonest games.
No, not dishonest. I need more data on what GOD or multiple GODS you believe in. Maybe your pal can jump in and tell us all the same thing. If GOD is a monster as you say, tell us more about this GOD. If you recall, I have not spoken of GOD as you do in a Bible.
Nonsense as our system was mainly base on the Rome Republic that existed long before the Jesus story and a large percent of our founders was what was known as freethinkers such as Jefferson and Madison and Paine and Franklin. They had a fear and a distrust of any religion that had gotten too powerful compare to the others with.special note of Madison.
Sorry but I do not think that too many of us are going to buy into your smoke blowing but if it give you joy go for it.
So you have faith it is the cyclic model? Do you have faith in the videos i presented to this topic? Is there a tipping point that changed you to the belief of the cyclic model?
If there is a God, he sure aint the God of the Bible. why? Book of Job. that God is one sadistic SOB.
You do not want a religion that overpowers GOD for you then are not taking the path. The Jesus story is part of Roman history. More So than the Jesus end of religion. I watched with amazement a program by a Jewish Rabbi that says Jesus is part of the Jews religion. I think he called it Jews for Jesus. https://jewsforjesus.org/
Indeed he is and some people here re trying to used fear of being torture in the afterlife by god and his agents to promote religion!!!!
Jesus, if he actually believed that anyone who doesn't accept his divinity will burn in the hellfire for all eternity, is a real *******.
I would no more call my videos fear than I would talking of a heart surgery as fear. I had a bypass and do not see it as fear though if the surgeon is lousy, beware.
Sounds like he is one you only heard of. And I am happy you conditioned it using the word IF. IF is very important isn't it?
First the Rome republic not the Rome Empire that follow it was used as part of the blueprint for our government and the Rome Republic was near it end during the Jesus cult beginning.