Why do you dems have so much hatred.

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  1. jgoins

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    Many people chose the lesser of the 2 evils but nobody knows what Trump will do for or to the country. Maybe the left should just stop with the destroy Trump at any cost tactic and just let him do what he is going to do and see if they can say "I told you so". But we have so many clairvoyants in this country who think they can see the future. Just because voters wanted an outsider in the office instead of a career politician does not make them evil. Just because someone believes differently than you do does not make them evil.
     
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    I did not use the word 'evil' with respect to these voters. I don't want to say "I told you so' after he does harm to this country. I want to stop the harm.
     
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    But you simply can't know what he does will harm the country or help it. I believed Obama would destroy the country but I did not try to stop him and fortunately I was wrong and it is not totally destroyed.
     
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    Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schif, Michael Moore, Barbara Boxer, Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean, everyone on MSNBC and CNN.

    I would have included Bernie but he's not a Democrat!

    You can tell the Marxist Democrats when they start talking about the evil rich getting to keep more of their own money and when they start talking about needing to implement Price&Wage controls.

    They aren't horrible. Well, I guess they are horribly WRONG!
     
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    The issue? The issue was the question from the OP "Why do you dems have so much hatred". My response was directly to the OP whom was asking that question. I attacked no one. Conservatives and Liberals view the world from differing perspectives. Pointing out those differences to the person asking that question is most certainly NOT a personal attack.

    As far as ignore?....LOL......oh no...NOT THAT.

    I didn't address a post to you prior to you responding to me, and I truly couldn't care less if you responded to me. This was never about you. In fact, this is the first time I ever recall seeing you. Do you honestly think that I give a rip whether or not you ignore me? If you feel the need to retreat to your safe space of ignore, just do it. There is no need to make it into a grand production. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that your input is somehow coveted. Nobody cares.
     
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    My bar may be a little lower than 'totally destroyed' and I have full confidence that Trump will leap over it with no problem. He cannot wield power safely, so he should have as little as possible. He should be denied any political victories. His very presence in that office has been damaging enough.
     
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    You think we have hatred for Donald Trump, no we think he is just hilariously bad, we strongly oppose him because he is a sociopath and a serial liar and the worst policies I have never seen.
     
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    The people you mention are just your every day normal Democrats. None of them are Marxists. Some are a little more liberal than others. That's pure hyperbole, like when partisan Democrat hacks call your typical Republicans Fascists or Nazis. There have been different political views from the start of our country. The idiotic namecalling does no good.
     
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    Of course they are Marxists! They advocate class warfare, redistribution of wealth, and central planning of the economy.

    All straight out of Marx's and Engels' Communist Manifesto.

    Being ignorant of what Marxism *is* doesn't mean you aren't a Marxist!

    If you think being called a Marxist is a perjorative then that is *YOUR* problem, not mine. It is a description of their economic policies and says nothing about them personally.

    It's like saying a Republican is a fiscal conservative. Is the term "fiscal conservative" a perjorative?
     
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    They have fallen for a million lies and they are not smart enough to question them. The Liberal solution to every problem is the most simple, knee jerk, not well thought out solution imaginable. They want government to do everything, even though government does nothing well. Instead of changing their ideas, they just seek to eliminate the opposing ideas, with lies, propaganda, and pandering. Trump has them about to lose their minds, because he isn't playing their games. Democrats haven't been this pissed off since Republicans took their slaves away.
     
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    During the Reagan administration about 20% of the nation's richest families owned and controlled 80% of the nation's total property and wealth. Today that discrepancy has changed to 1% of the nation's richest families owning and controlling 99% of the nation's property and wealth. This means that the 20% of the nation's wealth available to the average Americans during the Reagan years has shrunk to 1% now. This is an untenable inequity that is causing all sorts of problems in American society. Voters haven't yet identified the real issue yet, and voted Trump (a leader of the wealthiest 1%) into office not realizing they were supporting the status quo that was causing their distress in the first place. Trump and his billionaire cabinet and the millionaires club in Congress will never solve this problem because they are the root cause of that problem themselves.
     
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    When you speak in nonsense, you prove the value of your opinion. Most liberals don't want the government to do "everything". You might start arguing about how dumb liberals are by not making dumb posts.

    The real question is, what jobs are best done by the government. That is a legitimate issue to discuss. If your answer is "nothing", then you live in a fantasy world. There are some problems only governments can solve. That's a fact.
     
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    Yes, it all comes back the vast separation of wealth. While I think your numbers are off a little, the point is entirely valid.

    We DO need a redistribution of wealth. It was never intended that so much would be claimed by so few at the expense of so many.

    And the biggest suckers in the world just gave the richest among us a huge tax break at the expense of health care for the poor. I wonder how many coal miners will die from lung disease complications because of Trump and the Rs.
     
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    What harm can arise from having fewer illegal Mexicans and Muslims?
     
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    I see no damage he has done. Just because he is taking the country in the opposite direction some feel is wrong does not mean it will "damage" America. Let's get down to the hard facts, is it because you feel he is not qualified to be president?
     
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    Then why is there so much real estate and property available for purchase? Did you know if you wanted to and worked hard enough and maintained a good credit rating you could purchase property yourself and you don't have to be rich?
     
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    I am sure you make more money than I do so you need to give me half of yours. Let me know how you want to pay me.
     
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    Why are you so concerned with what the rich have? That's the biggest problem with liberals - jealousy, envy, and greed!

    The economy is *NOT* a fixed pie. The fact that the rich have always made money is no surprise. It's been the same forever. The way to fix the inequality is to GROW the economy, not to tear down the rich. Tearing down the rich just winds up with everyone living in shared misery. Ask anyone who lived under the Soviet Union or Maoist Chins!

    The inequality is only a problem because of jealousy, envy, and greed. According to Soc Sec the average wage is just as high in 1981 as it is today. Wages have totally kept up with inflation. The average wage earner today can buy as much today as in 1981.

    Trump and his administration are SUCCESSFUL people. People that have shown they know how to handle high finance, budgets, and how to manage people. I would *MUCH* rather have them leading the country than someone like Obama who never ran a business, never learned how to manage money, and who's head is filled with Marxist pap!

    The rich didn't steal your money. The government suppressed your ability to grow financially with its taxes and regulations on business and individuals. It truly is just that simple.
     
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    I disagree with the notion that most Liberals don't want to move industries en masse to Socialism.

    But, you are arguing a slightly different point, and it's one that I don't necessarily disagree with. I agree that some industries are better off being handled with Socialism, rather than Capitalism. I think probably every nation on earth handles police under Socialism. MOST places have fire departments and hospitals that are handled via Socialism. I'm one of the few Conservatives you will find that thinks Socialized medicine is a better solution, for various reasons. (The good things about Capitalism are not present in health care. People do not compare quality or prices, etc.) I have serious doubts as to the wisdom of Socialized education, and the results are pretty self evident. Private schools do a better job, for less money, and it's an industry without any complexities that would indicate government needs to be handling it.
     
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    The guy that shot the republicans at baseball practice was NOT a dem, he was a Bernie supporter, which Bernie was totally against. Sanders does not preach violence...Trump does. Trump promised to pay the legal fees of his supporters that commit violence. The shooter was a nut job just like the one that shot Giffords. The cons have been killing liberals for a long time....the planned parenthood shooter, the black church shooter, the OK City federal building bomber, were all right winger nut jobs. Politics makes people crazy, just like religions. There are more viloent right wing Christians in this country than extremist Muslims.
     
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    If you're going to tell lies, you have to make them believable....even you can't believe that, but maybe your base will? Get them mad enough to kill some blacks?
     
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    He was still a right winger....so was the republican baseball practice shooter. Both nut jobs, just like the right winger that shot up planned parenthood, and the shooter that shot up the black church, and the Ok City federal building bomber. Con nut jobs out number liberal nut jobs four to one.
     
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    An interesting point.

    But, there is no doubt that there are "extremists" on both sides.

    That said:

    There is no doubt that if Tim McVeigh was alive that he would most certainly be a Trump Supporter.
     
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    Wow, what is wrong with you? You need serious medication. You libs are so unhinged you are now blaming the right for your party assassinating your own enemies on the right? Do you hear yourself? I guess the right abort the millions of babies too? Shooting cops too? The ones that want to strip away rights and destroy free speech? It's not even laughable, it is down right insane. You are cancer to the USA.
     
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    Give me a break! "“Thousands of people will die if the Republican health care bill becomes law.”" "“The Republicans get away with murder,”

    Just two quotes from Bernie.

    Do you want more?

    The Scalise shooter was hunting Republicans. The Giffords shooter was a stalker hunting Giffords with no political agenda at all, just insanity. If you can't tell the difference then you have your head buried in the sand. Be careful, something will come along and bite your butt of.

    Timothy McVeigh was hunting government workers. He didn't care one whit about politics. And the planned parenthood shooter was anti-abortion. That is both a Republican and Marxist Democrat position if you haven't been paying attention.

    Religion is not politics.

    The church shooter was not responding to any rhetoric of violence from Republicans like the Scalise shooter was.

    Willful ignorance is not a survival trait!
     
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