Why don't we admit the obvious and split the country into two?

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  1. Colombine

    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you don't like Democrats to that degree, wouldn't you be a lot happier in a place where there aren't any.

    I've heard that said on here by people on both sides of the isle so what's wrong with considering whether it could be made a reality?
     
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    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    You see?
    It is this kind of comment that instantly building walls.
    Part of the problem, not the solution.
    I do believe you look for reasons to have a fight.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Nah, lefties need to learn how to lose. And they will sooner or later.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha! I only speak the truth if folks wanna fight about it that is on them.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Nah, I would rather be around and remind them they need to learn how to lose.
     
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    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    You should full well know you are being provocative and confrontational.
    So maybe you could stop shouting and do some listening too.
     
  7. Colombine

    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That attitude is exactly why we need to start thinking about this.

    That way no-one loses, everybody wins.
     
  8. Colombine

    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you like living an adversarial existence?

    Plenty of people don't. They just want to get on with their lives.

    How will your life be when you've got no-one to fight?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To do that we would have to drastically limit the federal government and dissolve the constitution so that states could actually do what they want because as currently written the red states cannot ban gay people and implement a state religion while the blue states cannot ban guns and limit religion.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This idea was already thought of by the founders. It is embodied by the notion of states and more specifically, state's rights.

    The left has done everything in their power to take away those rights.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not the worst idea, but why do we need two nations to do that? We can achieve precisely the same thing by simply allowing states to be more politically autonomous and tolerating that different regions are going to make laws we dont like (and dont have to abide by if we simply dont go there)? We'll still have a united military and a strong fedgov for international presence. Best of both worlds ...we just have tolerate sharing a nation with people with values we dont understand or agree with.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    This is such a stupid post and I'm sick of seeing this ****. Why don't you explain how it gets divided? Even here in "deep red" Kansas the state is really more purple than red. Same for Texas and Oklahoma. On the flip side of that California isn't really blue, It's purple too. And WTF are you red state guys gonna do without either coast or any of the major population centers? Almost all manufacturing takes place in the bigger cities. Who's opening new embassies and negotiating new trade agreements, USA red or USA blue?
     
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    Right. It's called State law.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this you?
    Yeh, someone needs to learn something alrite.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Think about that statement for a minute. Who is for/against each of the thing you listed?
     
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    The primary reason is that people are not 2-dimensional. We are much more than our political (or not) parties.

    The logistical reason is that D states support R states. They would all starve with all those unwanted babies running around and clearly they can't rely on the Feds for help with baby formula and tampons (which wouldn't be needed because every female of child-bearing age and ability would rival dumbass Duggar and be pregnant the second after giving birth).
     
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    No one is stopping folks from getting on with their life. The left just needs to learn how to lose.
     
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    I am not the one whining and saying we need to split.
     
  19. Colombine

    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thomas is talking about re-evaluating cases founded on substantive due process and McConnel hasn't dismissed a Federal ban on abortion. Isn't that doing exactly the same thing?

    Why not give everybody a choice to live in a country which more comports to their ideals? It's not like we're lacking space.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I not whining, I'm offering a choice.

    You seem to be whining about me suggesting people get a choice. You'd rather people didn't get a choice so that you can continue sticking it to them.

    Seems rather childish to me.
     
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    I think that you missed my point.

    What you suggest is the basic idea behind having states. All of these attempts (mostly by the left) to increase the power of the federal government and its dictates, rather than letting these decisions be made by the states, are what is destroying the basic concept of states. If we return back to the original principle of states' rights, we will basically have what you are suggesting.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Losing, with respect to policy, in many cases means precisely that people cannot get on with their lives.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd just like to think that owning a passport gives me a guarantee of certain rights whichever part of the country I happen to be in.
     
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    Dems oppose gun rights and Reps oppose gay marriage and legal weed. Both have their own brand of overreach and are a bunch of hypocrites.

    Dems are now up in arms about a woman's right to bodily autonomy, but if she wants to refuse a pharma product or protect her body from a rapist/killer with a gun, dems change their tune.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm just asking a question.
     

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