Why don't we admit the obvious and split the country into two?

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Your posts? I find this doubtful.
     
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    I would be careful there it sounds a lot like you're advocating for violence.

    No one cares if you change your mind because if you haven't noticed you're not important enough that your opinion is going to sway what the nation does.

    And people accuse Trump of being the narcissist....
     
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I had a friend die of Covid, a month before the vaccine came out. We're both over 70. I got the vaccine, and lived.

    That half assed vaccine saved my life. I don't know that for a fact, but I felt, given the remote odds of side effects, I'll take the vaccine.

    But, I agree that vaccine should never be forced. I'm on the fence about mandates, but, technically, they are not forced, they are coerced, they give a choice, though the choice might not be a good one. I have resolved that I'm against all mandates except during pandemics and endemics and the vaxxes have to be pandemic/endemic specific.

    Unless you're in the military and since those guys travel all over the world, a slew of vaccinations are mandatory for military readiness.
     
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    You are free to interpret what I write however you like. I am advocating a separation from the Union,and I am advocating that we not ask the federal govt for permission to do separate, any more than the founders asked King George his permission. Self determination was the principle behind the union, and self determination can be the principle for desolution of the Union, and the creation of a new union.
     
  5. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Well I don't know if you remember reading it but I'll tell you our story.

    My girlfriend took the first shot and all was well. She took the second shot and her arm immediately swelled up like a baseball and she got a sore throat directly after that.

    Then she started feeling a lump in her throat that got bigger and bigger. Turns out she had some sort of squamous cell cancer in her lymph nodes. No I'm no medical doctor but it seems like too much of a coincidence and a classic immune system response at the site of the injection and the cancer just happens to be in her lymph nodes.

    After going through 9 weeks of chemo and radiation she still has symptoms 3 months after treatment and has to go in for a biopsy soon.

    So you will have to forgive me if I remain skeptical and refuse to take the damn thing.

    She was otherwise in pretty good health for her age before of this began directly after the injection.
     
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    Federalism allows that for abortion. Those that want abortion up the instant of full separation, can, and those that want to ban it can. Exactly what you say you want.
     
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    My personal opinion.. the hospitals killed a lot of people, what are the percentages of those enubated that survived.. and effective treatment with ivermectin and other antivirlas was available and cheap... we got conned by the CDC , WHO Fauci and the rest of the established medical and pharmacy industry,, they were actually willing to kill large numbers of people to make basket loads of money.
     
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    What is wrong with the vaccine, beyond a few outliers?
     
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    The biggest problem with this is that eventually, the Democrats would flee their own areas and come straight into the red ones. This is what they do now. They come in, infect, destroy.. and then move to a new host to do the same thing. Think about it. People in red states NEVER flee to blue states. It’s always the opposite.
     
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    Winner winner chicken dinner!

    If they're blue Utopias were so great they would stay their ass there!
     
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    Because if you happen to be one of those few outliers it directly affects your own life.

    Then hearing someone say oh only a small percentage of them is no succor to you.
     
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  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    My friend's daughter went into anaphylactic shock after Gardasil. Three years later, she is still having seizures.

    yes, they need to do a better job of screening. She was allergic to something in the vaccine.

    NO question on that point, they tend to give out vaccines like candy, and that's not a good thing.

    But for that **** up, should we ban vaccines? No. but because there is a small risk, they can't be forced.

    What a person needs to do, is study what, precisely are the odds of serious side effects, weigh in your age, body type, allergies, in the mix.

    Then weigh the odds of getting the disease. IN most cases, the odds of side effects are far more remote than the disease.

    When I was a kid, we didn't get vaccines before the age of 2, pregnant women NEVER got them, and we only got a small number of vaccines.

    Now they have some 40 or so vaccines they give before the age of 6? That, I find troubling.
     
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    Yes. And?
     
  14. FatBack

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    When it happens to you or someone you love it's a whole different story.

    Your mileage may vary and if you don't know anyone who's been negatively affected by it well great for you.

    Not the same story here.
     
  15. Josh77

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    I will not compromise my values and beliefs to fit into one of the boxes politicians have created to control us, thanks. I prefer to think for myself, rather than be told how to think by the puppeteers.
     
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    Actually people do move from red states to blue states all the time. Come to Los Angeles and see how many people you'd meet from all around the country (and the world) in a matter of minutes. Don't believe the hype they're feeding you.

    That said, you missed the part when I said that people would get a new passport depending on which "country" they decided to remain in. You wouldn't get to just border hop any more. If you didn't have the right paperwork, you'd be an illegal alien.
     
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    Xi, Putin and the rest of America's enemies thank you and others for this and similar corrosive contributions.
     
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    A lot of people move because they can't afford to stay any more.

    Fact check: I rent out properties in Orange County which is Los Angeles's southern border suburb. Last year the average rental for a one bedroom apartment/condo was $1895.00 mo., this year it's closer to $2,200.00. Doesn't sound like a barren market that's starving for customers to me?
     
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    Why cheat our decedents out of a country because we can’t get along?
     
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    Maybe Putin would have a much harder time if we weren't fighting each other constantly? Maybe he welcomes the distraction?
     
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    Didn't our ancestors do the exact same thing? Maybe it's part of an evolving process?
     
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    You have no values and beliefs. It is more important to you for everyone to get along.
     
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    I have very strong values and beliefs. Some are views shared by Republicans and some are shared by Democrats. You don't think for yourself. You are told what the party belief is on each issue and you rabidly adopt it as your own point of view with no critical thought or examining things from multiple perspectives.
    I also recognize that without compromise, this country will be ripped apart. But you don't care about that either.
     
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    You may tell yourself that you have very strong values and beliefs but it's not true. You are wishy washy in order to get along and you hope everyone would just get along also. Avoiding conflict is the only belief you have.

    The left needs to be opposed at every turn. They pose the biggest threat to the nation. Give them an inch and they take a mile. They will not be satisfied until they have complete control.

    But keep wishing everyone to get along.......
     
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    Cookie cutter republican. No thoughts of your own. You don’t even know why you hate the left so much, beyond that your overlords have programmed you to.
     

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