Why go on... and on about it...

Correct... they must be FOUGHT for.

 

No, not the case. I'll give you a couple of examples of what I mean from this forum: A poster continually demeans homosexuals... then the next thing, said poster posts a 'Homosexual Jokes' thread. Went on for dozens of pages and the one demeaning homosexuals posted reams of explicit jokes of homosexuals having sex. Makes sense? Nah. Why would anyone supposedly anti-gay, source and post reams of explicit, detailed jokes of men having sex? Because back there in his closet, he was getting off on it? Yeah, probably.

We had another poster claiming gays were trying to brainwash her into being gay. Went on and on about it for hundreds of threads. The big bad gays were trying to make her do things she didn't want to do. In the closet? Yes, probably... because it would have been the saner option to attribute her own impulses to her own self, than trying to irrationally suggest there was some conspiracy by gays to make her gay.

Closet homosexuals ^^^ ^^^

 

The premise of this thread is that those who demean and are derogatory to gays... and go on and on about it - in a derogatory way - are closet homosexuals.

You're missing the point entirely. Whether on purpose, I don't know.

 

these people are usually men who feel insecure about their own masculinity.

they are also afraid that if a gay guy hits on them .. well who knows what might happen?

few other thoughts on that, but maybe I had better leave it

 

I don't dwell on homos or any other perversions or extremisms for that matter. Sort of like with terrorists, I say shoot em all and let GOD sort out the remains.

 

If any of my posts were interpreted as demeaning all gays, I would like to correct the perception in that they should be interpreted as only intended to demean the individual the comments were directed toward. Not because they are gay, but instead because of the idiotic views they have expressed.

 

You've accused people of being gay with no basis, so you are guilty of propagating and peddling the same BS smearing tactics that some pro-gay people use against anti-SSM marriage people.

 

And here are my last 7 uses of the word queer, on this website, going all the way back to Oct 2011. That’s why I asked you to provide an example. To demonstrate that you cannot.

Last 3 quoting the “Queer Nation Manifesto”
http://www.sterneck.net/gender/queer-manifesto/index.php

 

I have mistaken people for being gay. Just as I have mistaken some for being a woman or a man. Revealing that you would interpret that in the case of being gay, as being "accused".

 

I think that a person's view of homosexuality has a lot to do with how and where they are raised. An effeminate boy in the south is going to have a very different experience from one on the west coast. In the end there are a lot of politicians and religious leaders that are anti-gay as a way to compensate the shame and guilt they feel over their own homosexuality, but I don't think that everyone that's a homophobe is gay.

 

O_O the spin, she blinds me!

Seriously, you had no reason to think I was gay other than my pro-SSM views. There was no mistake. I'm not the only person you've done it to either.

 

Just a school yard tactic to attempt to stifle inconvenient opinions. Doesn`t work.

 

And weve seen your lies regarding my use of the word queer. In each case it was homosexuals using the term "queer" to identify themselves.

More made up lies. Cant stop yourself, can you?

But I havent, you made that up.

Simply identifying the one common characteristic of gay couples and heterosexual couples.

I would respond in kind but would be summarily banned. Anyway, I asked for an example, as in quote the freakin post of mine and none of the peanut gallery has come up with even one such example. Just vague references to your foggy memories.

???? I asked for even just one example. COPY AND PASTE my words and we see here you, changing the topic. Typical

 

You expect me to go through 14,000 posts to find one or two lines... really... I will pass, thanks - Ok, you did not say anything, you are a bastion of good will, tolerance, and love

Anyone that has been talking to you for any length of time knows your agenda - and knows how you portray the "queers" you so lovingly speak of.

 

___Exactly.___

 

I'm just dropping in here, and people probably shifted into the mode where they only read posts from the person they're directly arguing with.

But I'd like to toss in that I think people in the bisexual spectrum may have a tendency to be more aggressivly against the increasingly pervasive homosexual culture.

People ask how gays can be a threat to a family. But for a bisexual they really are. Heterosexual guys don't have the best track record with infidelity to start with, but they don't have to deal with the nonstop availiblity of nearly anonymous sex.

Also, people tend to think others are like them. A bisexual knows they had a choice, and may be inclined to figure that it's clearly a choice for everybody else as well.

 

I see what you're saying. But at some point, people being socially responsible with their behavior, is primarily upon the individual. I have been around a LOT of men (in the military), that I learned to look at as brothers and nothing more. For a bisexual person, it's likely much the same.

Really, it just makes sense to not allow oneself to get all horned-up over each possible prospect; you'd possibly lose your mind and wind up in trouble (physically, emotionally or morally).

Still, I know what you mean... sometimes I just don't want to be tempted at all; it's not always fun to 'resist' what you're feeling. Even so, self-control is typically the only option at hand.

 

I'd say that the threat to that bisexual's marriage isn't gays, but the person themselves.

hetero guys might have a bad track record for fidelity ... really?

Personally I think that is an insult to a lot of hetero men.

I don't think it is fair to say that all men have trouble keeping their dicks in their pants.

some men don't always act on base instincts.

 

I expect you to quit making (*)(*)(*)(*) up out of thin air, and attributuing it to me.

Ive said a lot of things. Just none of the things you accuse me of saying.

Again, "queer" is THEIR chosen word. I was quoting homosexuals use of the term to define themselves. Obviously, you know nothing of "Queer Theory", "Queer Nation" and the gays embrace of the term.

 

In terms of "queer theory/nation", the point of it is to create divisions, a sort of counter-culture because of the fact they are treated differently. You'll find groups like those in all minority groups. Most gay people however wish to assimilate and fight for the right to marry so they can be just like their heterosexual counterparts.

 

Your point? Its still THEIR chosen and adopted word.

 

Don't be silly about this: The implied meaning or usage of a word matters.

It's similar to why one person could call you a "jerk" (as a term of endearment) and another could use the same word, and incite you to an argument or physical altercation. (This also applies to other words like "gay" or "dick".)

Semantics can be fun, but there is no need to play that here. And if nothing else, it is true that YOU (dixon) render dialogue which all but verifies the reality that you don't likely intend to use any of those words in an endearing fashion. Reasonable interlocutors know, that your view of and approach toward homosexuality and homosexual people, is simply 'hostile'.

 

As for your thesis, I don't know, I never thought about it.

The resons for rejecting homosexuality can be

• rejections of a feminization of the society (concerns only homosexuality of men, which is much harder punished nearly all over the world, where it is illegal)
• they disturb an order which in the eyes of many people appear natural
• they proliferate sexual transmitted disease
• some people simply need s.o. to bully

Just some ideas.

 

I appreciate that. But look at other laws that we have, for example San Francisco banning Happy Meal toys. We've got tons of laws regulating temptations and behavior.

Also tons of laws regarding what someone does in the privacy of their own home because of the effects it might have on society. For example drug laws or gun laws.

Now, I don't know your stances on recreational drug use, firearms, or Happy Meals. But that is the mindset and precident in our country, and for bisexuals in particular it would very much be in play.