Why Gun Control is doomed to fail......

I have no problems backing up everything I have said.

Right about the fifth time I get tired of feeding the trolls.

Maybe you will want to prove something you have posted for a change?

 

In the 1980's the war in the NI-UK was reaching a peak, then in the late 80's-early 90's overtures were made to broker peace resulting in the '95 agreement, and a significant reduction in NI-UK casualties.

Incidentally, the BBC and much of the media here propogate the narrative that the conflict is over in the NI. Most Americans, even if aware of the history of the conflict, now assume peace reigns, yet virtually every day residual, secular violence continues though at a lesser rate than the 80's. BTW, despite decommissioning of various weapons caches by Republicans and to a lesser extent Unionist/Loyalist groups, and the strict gun control law (illegal to even possess a single round), guns are still relatively easy to obtain, easier in many ways because security/interdiction of contraband from other countries isn't as vigilant as it once was...which has created a shift if the root cause of violence across the NI where control over the illicit drug trade and its collateral violence has seen massive growth by former para groups adapting their organizations to the drug trade now extending into the Republic, also resulting in an increase of violence there.

 

Being put on the prohibited list doesn't always involve any convictions.

 

It would reduce their likelyhood as well as reduce other gun deaths

 

An you would reject his statement of experience based on what?

 

uh huh, and this has what to do with the price of tea in China?

That even in the middle of "the troubles" the USA had a higher firearm fatality rate?

 

lol...

 

the 'firearm fatality rate' that includes suicide and justifiable homicide to inflate the numbers when the stated goal of the current debate seems to be to keep guns away from violent criminals? Very dishonest.

In any event, *of course* more guns = more gun deaths, just like less guns = more deaths by other than guns. Thats not an argument for gun control unless you're prepared to argue for knife, bat, hands, feet control.

 

Household firearms ownership has never been recorded.

What is the rate of criminal ownership, anyway?

Correlation unless you can prove it.

 

the BM has continually claimed its access to firearms that causes crime. The ability of Americans to access firearms-whether in stores, the street or owned by others, is at its highest point in history. The BM is the most dishonest political movement in the USA and this bit about less gun owners is another case of the BM lying

 

Doesn't like the fact that the more a person knows about firearms, the less likely that person is to buy into the manure the BM spreads

 

While I was raised in NI, I was born in the US, and obtained my passport before coming to the US, and I came here, leaving the 'Troubles' in hope of finding my Country of Birth was true to the Constitution I, and most Irish, BTW, had studied throughout my schooling.
But, as for doing nothing for the US, you know nothing of my background or risks I have taken, nor the times I have had my life on the line, been wounded (more than once) defending equality, justice and liberty here and in other countries, nor the service I have provided or sacrifices I have made and the losses Inhave incured, something I hold in reserve for the moment. I have seen and experienced things most only read about in places few would venture. My background and my direct experience contribute to my interest in preserving the provisions of our Constitution. And, it has provided me with incite into those with concealed motives to subvert it.

If you served, you deserve respect for that. But, those that sacrificed their lives to establish and protect the freedoms and rights often taken for granted here, deserve the respect due to their sacrifice.
I do find it interesting that I often find people born/raised in other countries hat have chosen the US as their country, often know more of it's history and hold dear its fundamental tenets because they have seen and experienced life in places where such doesn't exist. The level of complacency I find here and how many take what they have for granted often astounds me.

 

Hawaii has had registration for years. no evidence whatsoever that it has decreased crime at all

the facts show that the goal of gun control is to

1) allow politicians to pander to low wattage voters who want something DONE RIGHT NOW

2) to harass people who don't support #1 or the politicians who push that crap

3) to pretend a politician or a party is doing something about crime without actually hurting criminals-which is very important when one of the Dems' main constituencies see every attempt to crack down on violent crime as an attack on blacks

 

I see. SO where does the 60 million more firearms figure come from?

 

I haven't seen the recent estimates but I know that millions upon millions of firearms have been purchased since Clinton's idiotic gun ban was passed. His gun ban, the Obama election and the Sandy Hook meltdown caused millions of guns that would not have been bought otherwise, to be bought

in November of 2012, the biggest gun dealer in the greater Cincinnati area received several PALLETS of AR 15s made by Bushmaster. The owner got a great deal and figured he could undersell the competition. So he marked them up only a 100 bucks which was less than others were selling them for. He put out a circular advertising the price. about the day that went out, Sandy Hook happened. His employees were telling me they couldn't understand him sinking thousands of dollars into rifles the store had plenty of to begin with

within a week of Sandy Hook he had sold every one of those rifles. while other stores jacked their prices up-he didn't. Every AR 15 they had was gone. people came in and bought one. They didn't care if it was a 20" 18" or 16" barrel, they didn't care who made it

He sold what normally was a two year supply in a week

 

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

 

I am sure you are in a constant state of confusion.

It does not take a conviction to be put on the NICS list.

 

How is it the laws prohibiting murder not stop the son of Sam?

 

I said as much in my post. Although as far as I'm aware, the NWFP is quite unique in the hand-made rip-offs industry, and even so they require access to smeltered metals and metal working machinery, not to mention the industrialized skill set. Compared to farming opiates or coca, there's no comparison.

 

Care to expand?

 

it generally involves due process.

 

Other countries manage to keep freed felons away from guns. The USA is saturated so the process would take a long time, but it can be achieved with dedication.

Presumably, by finding him in possession of the firearm he is already effectively convicted of that offense. Where the gun runner is the primary target, turning the person captured with the weapon into the police mole is just part of ordinary police work.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/c...or-110-years/story-30100765-detail/story.html

 

Oh... it GENERAL requires . . .

Looks like I'm right again.

 

Once you catch a person in a lie, he or she can tell you anything and what
you remember is he or she doesn't tell the truth.

And when someone tries to pass him or herself as a lawyer (particularly when
the claim gets progressively bigger), one is more inclined to go with ones initial
observation.

 

this ought to be funny.

your posts have yet to be right about anything on this topic. Tell me, how do you say in an affidavit that you don't have a felony record when you do? amnesia? a lobotomy. I have watched thousands of people plead guilty or be convicted. the Court tells them dozens of times the consequences of a felony conviction. I realize most criminals are stupid but seriously if you have been convicted of a felony, do you expect to pretend you didn't know that?