Why Has Trump Never Been Indicted After 5 Years Of Hundreds Of Criminal Claims

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  1. Trump outsmarted every Democrat and 17 intelligence agency

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  2. Democrats in DC are just too

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  3. Democrats in Washington DC are so incompetent they can't muster a single indictment from hundreds of

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  4. Most of these claims are just more fake propaganda

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  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good grief, you are sure to be in for another fall.
     
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    Not really. One of things that concerned me is why did the military sign a letter stating they would stand by the election results? We know Trump was going to use the military to seize voting machines. Doesn’t sound like a stretch for having military support his rule.
     
  3. Condor060

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    If it wasn't for exaggerations, you wouldn't have anything to post, would you.
    Your fake impeachments were scams perpetrated by the most dishonest party to ever govern.
    And they got exposed on national TV with their fake claims, and conjured up evidence. Both times.
    Schiff was caught lying about his secret evidence that never surfaced he bragged about on a dozen news channels
    A fake whistle blower that never materialized or testified
    All 14 Witnesses that folded under Republican questioning that went from Trump said, to well, I was told Trump said
    Forged twitter accounts that were exposed with changed and doctored information
    Schiff fake claims about how the call went with Zelenski
    Criminal Democrats deposing witnesses in secret to throw out the ones they didn't want
    Trying to force illegal subpoenas down everyones throats when Pelosi and Schiff fake commission was never given authority by the house by voting for an impeachment inquiry then delegating its authority to a commission.
    Then falsifying claims of obstruction for subpoenas that were never legal
    Then claiming anyone who didn't vote with them in the Senate were co conspirators of Trump
    Then it surfaced this fake whistle blower Schiff never knew, actually used to work for him, which is why Schiff never allowed him to testify
    Coupled with their fake march with the articles of impeachment
    Topped off with a laughable 71 day investigation to articles of impeachment. Thats a historical first
    Coupled with a 3 year fake Russia scam that produced nothing that could be used in their fake impeachment

    These are the things you are proud of. We know.
    Which is why the left has ZERO credibility when they make a claim now.
    Which is why leftist trolling news broadcasting (CNN MSNBC) have lost over 80% of their viewership
    Which is why simple pod casters like Joe Rogan get 11 million views yet CNN can't top 500K per broadcast. Must only be friends and family watching.
    Which is why after 5 years of thousands of fake criminal Claims against Trump, you can't even muster a single indictment
    Which is why they propped up a Dementia patient that isn't allowed to call on reporters without being told who he can call on


    The left is the laughing stock of the country which is why they were given a little hint of whats to come in Virginia, New York, New Jersey, Seattle, and Minneapolis just a few months ago.

    Just an FYI, You can impeach a ham sandwich. All you have to do is make a claim and get your party to vote on it. Democrats will vote for anything thats against their authoritarian way of governing like Pavlov's dogs salivating every time they hear a bell ring. No surprise there.
     
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    I listen to Rogan, though controversial, he's no right winger

    And no, liberals do not get their news from Twitter, they get it from the Broadcast networks, CBS, ABC and NBC, mostly and news journals like WaPo, NyTimes L.A Times, NPR, BBC etc.
    Mixed, yes but, their viewers are disproportionately left of center.

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    Are you kidding?

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    Only because he was president.
    Yes, they mean nothing to republicans, whose standards are in the gutter.
    However,....
    If you are sued for fraud numerous times, and the verdicts are against you, one could presume you are a fraud, and rightfully so, based on the evidence provided the courts and awards given.

    They mean nothing? You are living in la la land.

    Imagine if the shoe were on the foot, if these fraud cases were against Obama? Righties heads would be exploding.
    Of course, character and the rule of law means nothing to republicans, has history has proven, over and over and over again.
    We shall see.

    There are several criminal investigations against Trump.
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    He does not care about the nation, he cares only about Donald Trump.

    Any billionaire who would kick his cerebral palsy infected toddler nephew off the family health care plan because of greed, does not care about you, or anyone else.
     
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    Any billionaire who would kick his cerebral palsy infected toddler nephew off the family health care plan because of greed, does not care about you, or anyone else.

    You've been Trumped

    Trump is the laughing stock of the world. The wheels finally came off his clown care and Biden beat him. Biden, imagine that.
     
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    By a majority sycophantic senate who were afraid of his mean tweets, that he would primary them, that his base would go after them if they crossed him, so, no wonder he was not convicted. They didn't even allow evidence to be presented, and the second impeachment no trial was allowed.

    I guess you forgot that part.
     
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    Obstruction of Congress and Insurrection are crimes, and
    both were listed.
    One of the articles of impeachment one the first was Obstruction of Congress, a crime.

    on the second it was Insurrection, which is a crime.
     
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    That's not necessarily true. Criminals often commit financial crimes decades before they are caught.
     
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    Not when they are audited every year. ;-)
     
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    Call it want you want, but Trump caused it.

    On that point, there is no question.
     
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    Actually, it's just one audit, which has lasted a decade, that being said....

    Most billionaires get away with it because they have muscle. IRS would much rather pursue smaller targets.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-sorry-but-its-just-easier-and-cheaper-to-audit-the-poor

    https://theconversation.com/trumps-...s-the-working-poor-as-much-as-the-rich-147313

    Well, let us not forget that the IRS missed the fact that Nixon owed the IRS almost $500,000, which didn't come to light until there was a congressional (JCT) investigation, which was the reason, from that point on, Presidents started to release their taxes.
     
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    Says the party that fawned all over Trump for over 35 years. Salivating over him with awards like
    6 honorary doctorates
    A Hollywood Walk of Fame Star
    Humanitarian Award
    Tree of Life Award
    Ellis Island Medal of Honor
    President's Medal by the Freedom Foundation
    Unicorn Children's Foundation Shining Star Award
    Presidential Hero Award
    Gaming Hall of Fame
    Time Person of the Year

    All while hosting Trump on hundreds of liberal talk shows, cameo's on dozens of Liberal Hollywood films and giving him his own reality show.

    Then the day he walked down the escalator, you and the rest of the lefts ilk started with your
    Trumps a homophobic, Islamophobic, pedophile, rapist, tax evasion, racist, white supremist, womanizing, fraudster, neophobic, xenophobic, draft dodging, dictator,
    Within 24 hours of announcing his candidacy.

    They overwhelming hypocrisy is recorded historical and undeniable.
    Which is why the left and its ilk have no credibility to make any claims.
     
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    Or maybe when your team is made up of the most clueless lying politicians on the planet like

    Jerry (The Frog) Nadler
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    Who is so dumb he claimed Antifa violence in Portland was a myth

    Or Adam (Bug eyed) Schiff
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    That forgot to have his magic whistle blower testify and couldn't find a single witness that wasn't hearsay,
    Or claimed on National TV he had all the magic evidence to convict Trump, but somehow, he never provided it

    You might have had a chance.


    You mean like the magic evidence Schiff swooned about that never appeared or his magic whistle blower that never surfaced?

    But I didn't forget this part

    Schiff was caught lying about his secret evidence that never surfaced he bragged about on a dozen news channels
    A fake whistle blower that never materialized or testified
    All 14 Witnesses that folded under Republican questioning that went from Trump said, to well, I was told Trump said
    Forged twitter accounts that were exposed with changed and doctored information
    Schiff fake claims about how the call went with Zelenski
    Criminal Democrats deposing witnesses in secret to throw out the ones they didn't want
    Trying to force illegal subpoenas down everyones throats when Pelosi and Schiff fake commission was never given authority by the house by voting for an impeachment inquiry then delegating its authority to a commission.
    Then falsifying claims of obstruction for subpoenas that were never legal
    Then claiming anyone who didn't vote with them in the Senate were co conspirators of Trump
    Then it surfaced this fake whistle blower Schiff never knew, actually used to work for him, which is why Schiff never allowed him to testify
    Coupled with their fake march with the articles of impeachment
    Topped off with a laughable 71 day investigation to articles of impeachment. Thats a historical first
    Coupled with a 3 year fake Russia scam that produced nothing that could be used in their fake impeachment
     
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    I am assuming you are referring to the US as the "nation he cared about"?

    No, he didn't care about the nation.

    He never kept it a secret that he was only POTUS to his supporters.
    He told us to our faces that everything was under control regarding COVID and then said he "takes no responsibility. Not at all".
    He told us that the people that don't look, love or worship the way we do are stealing "your country".
    He walked off the job completely and spent all his time have superspreader rallies to lie to his supporters over and over.
    He lied to his own supporters about widespread election fraud and deepened the divide in the country.
    He stole from his own donors' bank accounts repeatedly and had to be forced to refund them.

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    I understand that he is some sort of deity for some people so I ask you to consider this scenario as a surrogate to illustrate my point.

    Have you ever heard the phrase "Going postal"? It references when a person working for the USPS is fired and returns to the worksite to unleash on a bunch of former coworkers and supervisors, usually in some sort of mass shooting. This is comparable to students that get fed up with whatever and return to school with weapons to kill their classmates and educators.

    We've all worked for someone or some company at some point in our lives. We've all have former co-workers that were fired for a myriad of reasons. Some of those reasons were valid and some were not.

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    I feel very confident in saying that NOBODY in the US, irrespective of political party or ideologies, would say that it's acceptable for a person that lost his or her job to willfully project their pain on their former co-workers, former supervisors and anyone else they blame for their internal pain. I am also confident that everyone would say that an adult has the responsibility to handle their problems maturely, honestly and privately.

    I understand that Trump is upset that he wasn't re-elected.
    I understand that he is incapable of connecting his performance to that termination.
    I understand that he has gaslighted some of his supporters to believe a lie he doesn't even believe.
    I understand that he is struggling with coming to terms with all this because he can't self-reflect properly.

    However, NONE of those are justification for him to keep disrupting the company. What he is doing is comparable to "going postal". He keeps showing up near his former place of employment and raising as much hell as he possibly can.

    They can use whatever procedures are available to make their voice heard, but they can't just hang around outside every day and complain about their termination to everybody and ask other people to break the law on their behalf just because they are angry.

    A disgruntled employee can't publish scathing reviews of their replacement's job performance a couple times per week.

    Any manager/supervisor would call 911 to have a disruptive former employee removed from the premises even if their complaints about their termination are valid. The reason for that is clear. The company's decision makers made a decision and their direction and mission are more important than one person's personal angst because they were not included in those goals moving forward.

    The BEST INTERESTS of the company, its shareholders and customers is the collective priority.

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    It doesn't help our country when our then-President was behaving so erratically that other nations' leaders are concerned it could set off a war.

    It really boggles my mind that so many people think he was a strong leader. He doesn't know how to lead and even if some of us disagree on that point, I have no hesitation in saying I believe we all agree that a strong leader could table his personal problems and act in the best interests of those he leads.

    If our then-President, Trump, cared about our nation...he would put us, our Constitution, our needs, our collective problems and priorities above his own anger at not being re-elected and we don't need any more information to substantiate that is not the case than his desire to block Biden's election and refusal to allow the transition teams to work together for the good of our nation.



    Summary: Trump is not connected to any emotion that involves caring about others. He only cares about himself and he is clearly more than willing to keep piling up the bodies to assuage his internal pain. His niece, a licensed mental health professional said it best. There will **never** be enough and we are paying that debt.

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    Yet the left tried to cancel him because they didn't like his podcast on Covid. Go figure


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    So you can't find a single indictment on Trump after 5 years of thousands of fake claims so your default was to post other peoples crimes?

    Pretty weak, expected but weak
     
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    Never heard that one
     
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    Overwhelming hypocrisy? Listen to you, lets get a few things straight:

    Trump, before he revealed who he was in politics when he become older, was a youthful, charming, likeable figure.

    Hell, even I liked him once upon a time. He only became ugly when he ran for president and we began to see who he really was.

    There is nothing unusual here, and the vast majority of the sexual allegations charges weren't known until he ran for president, and the two that were known were decades prior, one was a grope in the 80s. and the other one was his wife who withdrew the charge, and seen as a lover's tat " I referred to this as a ‘rape’, but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense" Ivana said. The rest are just fluff awards given typically to celebrities, which he was. The freedom foundation is a right wing funded group, big deal. You know damn will that 'Time Person Of The Year' is not a compliment, per se, it's an award for historical influence or presence, whether for good or evil; Both Stalin and Hitler got the award.
     
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    I"m not going to bother refuting your baseless claims, and the reason
    is that it doesn't negate my rebuttal. If your phony whataboutisms did refute my claim, I would bother. But, since it doesn't, there is no point.

    Doesn't refute my rebuttal. Got that?
     
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    The left didn't try and cancel Joe, where do you get that? Even Bill Maher defended Joe.
    Yeah, he and Neil got into a spat, and Neil tried, but so what?
    Criminals often get away with crimes for decades before they are caught.

    Your premise is not only weak, it's meaningless.

    Thanks for reposting the criminal charges and indictments against WH republicans, it's telling.
     
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    Yes, trump has been under "perpetual audit".

    “Experts say it's not unusual for the Internal Revenue Service to keep some of the wealthiest people with the most complicated returns under what amounts to a perpetual audit.”
    USA TODAY, northnewjersey.com, As Trump tax returns remain under seemingly endless audit, experts parse IRS methods, By, Abbott Koloff, June 3, 2019.
    https://www.northjersey.com/story/n...-audit-experts-discuss-irs-policy/1291902001/

    Nixon was not under perpetual audit.
     
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    The article said allegedly .Also Do you have a criminal complain or statue that tell you its illegal . Im not saying he didn't do it because they sued him and it sounds like something a hard core business man would do or hos lawyer would advise him to do after they sued him but its not a crime as far as I know.
     
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    Liberals gave him awards and loved him for his money at one time lol
     
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