Why I hate Civilians - A Military-member's Manifesto

BS , the FOIA violations and refusals disprove your theory.

 

I said women in combat, but go ahead and twist it , because you don't want support you just want to spew your contempt for everyone.

Jessica Lynch endangered many in her rescue. She was not even a combat soldier.

 

I am not twisting a single thing. When you say "women in combat", that is what I assume you mean. Exactly that, women in combat.

Jessica Lynch was a woman. Who was part of the 507th Maintenance Company. Which was attached to 5-52 Air Defense Battalion. Which had women in place operating the PATRIOT missile system since the mid 1980's. Now are you going to even try and say that PATRIOT is not a combat system? That the women that operated it were not "Combat soldiers"?

I am not being contemptous towards anybody. But please, be clear with what you are trying to say because you are making almost no sense here. Even from the earliest days of GWOT we have had female MPs "kicking in doors" and conducting what was all but in name combat missions. And nowhere will you find me saying that either this was not so, or that they should not be there.

You are creating and chasing ghosts my friend. You are the one insisting that some do not want women in combat, and that there are no women in combat. But in reality the facts prove that to be absolutely wrong. But somehow I am the one twisting things?

Because you are building a giant hominid here out of straw. It is not even coming close to what anybody here is saying, let alone to anything that I am saying.

 

If we had done something about this which we have not there would not be this problem.

Every tool is available to us IF we act.

AA

 

I have a question: Why does China's navy look like a mirror image of ours? How much dual use technology do we have to sell them, or how many Chinese and Taiwanese spies does it take for them to copy, down to the nuts and bolts, our military weapons and craft? Doesn't China, knowing a lot of our military secrets, make our military redundant? Doesn't redundancy mean that the trillions of dollars that we spent in research and development were for naught? Why do we give so much of our military technology to so many other countries? And when will they pay the American taxpayers back for the
$ trillions we have wasted on military research and development?

 

How do you figure the Chinese Navy is a copy of the U.S. Navy??

It isn't.

They have only one old Soviet made and purchased carrier which is not combat capable.

They are not in any way capable of launching aircraft from that single carrier.

They are not even close!

AA

 

Yet the challenge China faces is that it is copying innovations first undertaken more than a few decades earlier (China was four decades late for manned space travel and six decades late for a jet aircraft landing on an aircraft carrier). When China puts a person on the moon later this decade it will be five decades after the United States did so. In those four to six decades, the innovation of the United States and other countries did not stand still. So we should not automatically assume that mere replication of such technological milestones is a good idea for China.


This is a good article about China's aircraft carriers too.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/02/the-truth-about-chinas-aircraft-carriers/

http://img.theepochtimes.com/n3/eet-content/uploads/2015/07/31/Changhe_Z-10-676x450.jpg
A good article about China stealing our military technologies.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...l-us-weapons-systems-designs-report-says?lite

An article about a US weapons system the Chinese stole.

What is wrong with you people. You are as blind to the Chinese BS as you are to Trump's BS


https://www.rt.com/news/chinese-jet-cyber-espionage-stolen-718/
New Chinese stealth jet built with stolen F-35 component designs

and the list goes on and on






https://www.rt.com/news/chinese-jet-cyber-espionage-stolen-718/

 

The experiences of female combat units makes a compelling case that for defensive combat women are dramatically superior to men.

For male units, on occasion machine guns were set up behind the Russian male units making it clear if they retreated or refused to advance they would be machine gunned by down their own Russian troops - as male units tend to retreat when facing superior forces. This was not so for female units.

It appears that in defensive combat female troops seem to take a maternal instinct stance as soon as their side suffers any casualties as if it their own family members killed or wounded - for which the become furiously and non-stoppable aggressive, partcularly if their task is positional defense so defending both her family and her home maternal instinct kicks in. Women nest. Men roam. Thus, women have a stronger defensive instinct when under attack.

In one instance, facing a vastly superior advancing German force, the male units fled while the female unit would not. Not only did they stand their ground, but those women counter attacked - and won.

In another home-city defense action, Germans attacked with an overwhelming force in both experienced troops and equipment at what they saw a remote weakly defended spot. There were only Russian female troops - greatly outnumbered and with significantly less heavy weaponry. Those Russian female troops fought to the very last woman, refusing to retreat or surrender. However, they had inflicts such greatly superior number of German casualties and taken out so much German equipment the German advance had been halted.

Simply, once female units start to fight they can not be turned off and become totally destructive even sacrificially. After WWII Russia disbanded female combat units - but NOT because they were inferior fighters. The reason given was that they were too difficult to restrain as a command and control issue. Such as refusing to comply with orders to retreat or to suspend fighting. If a female unit is attacked in a defensive position and take any casualties, they go into a total furious fighting mode that can't be turned off easily even if their level of aggressiveness becomes suicidal missions. Their singular fixation becomes kill the enemy, all of them, whatever the costs, anyway possible.

Male units also will surrender more quickly when facing seemingly impossible odds. Female troops would not surrender, they tended to prefer to fight to the dead.

Men, to the contrary, seem psychologically more suited towards outward and advancing missions. Women defend better including counter attacking from a defensive position. Men are better for mobility and more restrained fighting within structured command. If the goal is to defend a position, women are psychologically superior.

 

China is still multiple decades behind the U.S. Militarily and it has no navy of consequence.

China is not even close to a match against the U.S. Military.

Not even close.

AA

 

The P-51 was WAY better! It had the hold to hook it to your dog tag chains so it was always handy. I kept losing P-38s all the time.

 

New Chinese stealth jet built with stolen F-35 component designs
https://www.rt.com/news/chinese-jet-cyber-espionage-stolen-718/

Chinese hackers steal U.S. weapons systems designs, report says
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...l-us-weapons-systems-designs-report-says?lite

Google China's aircraft carriers. Google: China+copying US military technology. There is a lot about this.


http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a746/3319656/
A really good article about China stealing our technology.

 

RT??

Really?

The Chinese did get the Stealth Chopper wreckage but they are still many years away from manufacturing a viable stealth aircraft that works well.

AA

 

You are being contrary because you lost this argument.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-now-showing-chinas-stealth-fighter/?page=all

You would think an MIT professor would keep up with wordly things.

 

Lost how exactly?

You talk about a few technologies which the Chinese have acquired yet they have not come anywhere close to developing them to any level that would come even within 20 years of U.S. Military capability.

AA

 

It isn't just a few technologies. Look it up before you start demanding that I cower to you just because you are a male. I beat you on this. That is that. Now go study your quantum physics. We are waiting for our fusion power.

 

LOL!!

You think because I am a man that I have some need to get the last word? LOL!!

I am not like that at all.

The Chinese Military is decades behind the U.S.

Google Chinese General Chen Bingde at Norfolk.

AA

 

That is exactly what I think!

The Chinese military might be years behind us, but they are catching up fast thanks to all the technology they have stolen from us.

 

Well understand the tech. they stole was developed decades ago.

Sure it helped them but knowing what something is and manufacturing it properly are two different things.

AA

 

They do?

*scratches head*

In what way? It seems to resemble that of Russia much more then the US.

But please enlighted me, what exactly are they using that is US and not Russian technology?

They use Russian Destroyers, Russian Submarines, Russian aircraft, and Russian weapons. Heck, they are even using a Russian aircraft carrier that will be flying copies of Russian CATOBAR fighters.

And if this is what you believe, then please feel free to create a thread discussing this.

It should be obvious by the title that this is not a thread about China.

Then obviously you should be able to give us some references and information to back that spurious and personal claim.

Oh, the P-38 had a hole also, it was just on the other end is all.

Yea, that is why they have an old Soviet era ski-ramp aircraft carying guided missile cruiser.

It is late and I am tired, but maybe somebody else can take the time and provide a list of all the US carriers that used a ski-jump configuration.

I think you must have gotten lost on the way to the Conspiracy Theory section. Because this is all that I am seeing. And this is actually common in what I see from Conspiracy Theorists. They will jump into any thread, no matter what it has to do with, and start to inflict their own crazy arsed theories onto others.

Then people wonder why I hate dealing with so many civilians. As I previously stated, those that will inject their own crazy beliefs onto others just drives me crazy. Then playing the "cause you are a man" just goes even further to show that somebody who wandered in here is a complete nutter.

 

Moo's package was an F110-GE-129 afterburning turbofan engine, built by General Electric to power America's latest F-16 fighter jet to speeds greater than Mach 2 (1500 mph). Over lunch in the Marriott's restaurant, 58-year-old Moo told the arms dealers who had arranged the purchase that he would soon be looking for additional engines--or even an entire F-16. But what the Chinese army wanted most of all was an AGM-129A, the U.S. Air Force's air-launched strategic nuclear-capable cruise missile. The stealth weapon, which flies at 800 miles per hour, can deliver a 150-kiloton W80 warhead to a target 1800 miles away.


http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a746/3319656/

China has been a global hub for manufacturing counterfeit electronics and consumer goods, but as the Asian giant asserts its dominance in the Asian Pacific and beyond, its defense establishment is using the same approach to modernise its vast armed forces.

Despite its large standing and reserve army, Chinese Armed Forces technologically lags behind US, Russian and NATO forces. China has decided to manufacture ‘counterfeit’ high-end defense technology on a large scale to overcome its existing strategic weakness. According to a recent report published by the US Naval Institute, China is using military espionage and reverse engineering to build a modern army with “cloned weapons.”

Using cyber espionage and by making secret deals with US arms buyers, China has managed to obtain advance US weapons technology. China is reportedly also targeting Russia in its quest for high-end military technology

China’s expanding military and growing assertiveness has been bolstered by weapons cloned from the arsenals of other countries. Bleeding edge U.S. aircraft including the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and Northrop Grumman X-47B unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) have Chinese counterparts that are remarkably similar. Some of the technology used in these designs was almost certainly acquired through a vigorous Chinese cyber spying campaign.

U.S. Defense officials have stated that Chinese military hackers undertaking “technical reconnaissance” have succeeded in pilfering highly classified technical documents on a number of occasions. The sensitive technical data that is known to have been compromised is now evident in the latest versions of several Chinese weapons.

Officials also suspect that China has managed to obtain valuable technical advances by making backroom deals with U.S. allies that bought American weapons. It is for this reason that the U.S. decided not to export the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor stealth fighter. [USNI News, October 27, 2015]



China’s new knock off armoury includes US-designed fighter jets, Predator drones, Humvees, tanks and infantry weapons. The country is financing this counterfeit weapons program by selling its knockoff weapons in the international market.

There might be one downside to this Chinese proposition. The US Naval Institute’s report doubted the quality of Chinese counterfeit weapon systems. The report quoted senior naval analyst Eric Wertheim, saying, “I think the big issue with all Chinese weapons – including copies of Western equipment – is that they remain untested in combat.” Considering the sophistication of Chinese operation, it could only be a matter of time before Chinese engineers and manufacturers locate the bugs and smooth out the glitches.



http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/11/china-clones-its-way-to-military-dominance/

According to public reports, China is building two aircraft carriers, with plans to increase that to four, according to one report, and possibly a new class of helicopter carrier for amphibious assault. For many in China, this has been a necessary evolution for a country of such wealth and international power. For the government, it is part of a techno-nationalist campaign designed to show that the country is arriving at the highest level of international power. The idea is that China can do anything the other great powers do. It can land jet aircraft on a carrier, it can put a rover on the moon, and it can put a man in space. This is the decade of impressive and inspiring achievement we have seen from China.

Yet the challenge China faces is that it is copying innovations first undertaken more than a few decades earlier (China was four decades late for manned space travel and six decades late for a jet aircraft landing on an aircraft carrier). When China puts a person on the moon later this decade it will be five decades after the United States did so. In those four to six decades, the innovation of the United States and other countries did not stand still. So we should not automatically assume that mere replication of such technological milestones is a good idea for China




http://thediplomat.com/2015/02/the-truth-about-chinas-aircraft-carriers/

China’s building a second aircraft carrier—a bigger, more capable flattop to take over from Liaoning, a refurbished Russian vessel that Beijing is using to learn naval aviation fundamentals.

And the new carrier could have a powerful new radar plane, thanks to China’s efforts to copy—and steal—details of the America’s own E-2 Hawkeye early-warning aircraft.
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/ch...cas-naval-radar-plane-bf0de172d72a#.zfdujopuk

My oh-so humble apologies. Going back through my quick research it seems that you are right about Chinese aircraft carriers. They didn't steal the design from the US military. They just stole everything else from us, especially our aircraft, including aspects of the F-35 Stealth fighter which cost the Western World $400 billion to research and develop. By knocking off this technology, China saved itself $400 billion in research and development costs.

In 1996, President Bill Clinton personally signed an executive order transferring control of satellite technology to the Department of Commerce; thus releasing restraints on a wide variety of sophisticated space and missile technology which were then exported to China. Obama followed suit. GW Bush authorized the transfer of all kinds of defense materiel to Taiwan. (I guess Taiwan is our friend, even though at least a few Taiwanese have been caught spying on the US. )



Each year, the United States exports billions of dollars in manufactured goods. Some of these items are explicitly military (e.g., fighter aircraft and tanks), while others are dual-use, including advanced materials, computer processors, and software.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/12/export-controls-and-the-hard-case-of-china

It seems what technology we are not giving China, they are stealing. American taxpayers are left paying the bills while the military-industrial complex gets rich selling US military technology to china. So, China's motto concerning the transfer of military technology is, "If you're not going to sell it us, we're just going to take it."

I didn't realize that talking about China stealing America's military technology was reserved for male-lifers in the military. You seized on the one thing I got wrong--Chinese clones of US aircraft carriers, and completely ignored the rest of the post. One thing I have realized is that on this forum negative talk about China earns the wrath of most of the posters. I always here about what geniuses the Chinese are. Why is their entire military copied from other nations?

As a woman who has paid her share of taxes, and the mother of two sons who pay 18% of their income in taxes, I have a right to know what our country is doing with all this money. Besides the social welfare programs, we are all paying taxes to fund the welfare programs of the military industrial complex whose bottom lines get fatter every time they transfer military technology, the research and development of which was bought and paid for with the taxes my family has paid for generations.
Our defense budget is more than $600 billion dollars, probably closer to a trillion dollars. China's is maybe $125 billion at most. Why is that? Because American taxpayers are paying for the research and development of these technologies, and China gets them for free.

By the way, my father was retired military, my brother served, my grandfathers served in WWll. My sons won't serve because of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s like you they would undoubtedly be subjected to. You can hate us all, because at this point in time, everyone in my family is a civilian and hopefully always will be.
Scenario: My sons get drafted to fight in a war with china who is using technology that my sons paid for with their taxes. In the meantime investors in the military industrial complex get filthy rich off the transfer of military technology to China. Forget that.

 

Well, now that you two have ruined the thread - bye bye

 

And what that and your previous rants have to do with the topic of this thread, I have absolutely no idea.

5 fathers? I don't think I even want to know.

 

The topic of this thread is you hating civilians. I think it is within the 'realm' of this thread to tell the civilian-haters that some civilians hate military personnel too.

It wasn't five fathers, it was more like seven, but I never had the 'pleasure' of meeting two of them.

 

This guy rants on and on about how much he hates civilians because they just aren't as cool as he is. IMHO, I think the thread was ruined before he hit the "post new thread" button.

My point in my rather (I'll admit pathetic post) was that I kind of question where all the hate and brutality in military personnel comes from.

 

No, that is not the topic at all (and even if it was, that does not explain your earlier rants against China). Obviously you have some issues in detecting sarcasm, as well as in reading nuances that are anything more subtle then a sledgehammer across the head. So if you came away from what I said thinking "he hates civilians", then obviously you read nothing other then the title of this thread.

But your mindless, off-topic conspiracy filled, then outright attack posts are an absolutely perfect example of everything I hate about a lot of civilians. So full of rage at something that you lash out and attack anybody who you think is your enemy.

Well, feel free to do that, please just go and do it elsewhere however. I have no interest in your temper tantrums or substance fueled fantasies.