Why is the American right wing so reluctant to help the Ukraine?

Too long. You could split that and name three of them.

I've actually suggested "Vessels of Sin" to this all-girl group I know, but they turned it down.

 

Not even Faux is backing Mucker anymore

https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9

 

I am not sure it's a love of Russia and hate of US/Biden as much as it is "the enemy of my enemy is my friend and the grass is always greener over there" and the RW tendency to capitulate to "populist strongmen/pied pipers". It apparently is a deeply ingrained (genetic) tribal fear, extremely easy to manipulate.

 

the whole Ukrainian area has been a huge mess historically going back to the revolution the area was full of anti-stalinists and pro-german partisans, just making it unsafe, if one can imagine a war with no good guys this was it..currently Putin being an ex-cop is promoting a resurrection of Stalin as strong white nationalist man, the right finds putins world preferable

 

@Reasonablerob

This author is a former employee of the DIA and wrote a book about Putin. She makes the case that Putin sabotaged the pipeline. Interesting article.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/five-reasons-russia-behind-nord-stream-industrial-sabotage

 

ok, why should we stop Russian aggression? Should we stop aggression in China, Venezuela, Congo, Sudan, Nigeria, Syria, Iran, North Korea? Should the USA go back into Afghanistan and Iraq?

Why Russia and none of these other places?

Why should the USA go back to being the policeman of the world? Didn’t you learn your lesson over the past 50 years that it’s a bad idea?

 

werever the US goes businessmen and bankers are sure to follow, the often unmentioned tie to ukraine is they want to join the EU economically, it is always about the money period

 

Ok person who advocated forced door to door vaccination by force with government Jack Boots.....

 

Sure, same to you. You commie you.

 

"the enemy of my enemy is my friend" boils down to "Russia is my friend, and US is my enemy" which is what I was saying. That is how the pseudo-cons see it.

 

I'm not the one who is accusing my fellow countrymen of hating my own Nation.... That would be your clearly leftist extremist position.

But go ahead and humor me and tell me how you're not on the left again.

 

Foremost, rightists don't like to pay big bucks for another country's happiness. They're nationalists.

Second, a global way of thinking isn't part of their mindset. They would possibly develop it when aliens would attack the earth, but not before.

 

I understand what you mean but "the US is my enemy" part might be stark reality but I don't think they (MAGA Rs) see that as clearly as you do but you maybe right. Quite sad though..

 

I voted 'other' because I really think the OP is incorrect. Hell, there's a LOT of us on the Right who rejoice at Russia getting its nose bloodied badly after its murderous invasion of Ukraine. What's more, it has started to occur to more and more of us that maybe a crippling, non-nuclear series of strikes against Russia itself might be a necessary step to ending this whole thing! Right now -- before winter hits Russia would be the optimal time to do it, too.







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You vaccinate with needles, not Jack Boots

And I also advocated forced door-to-door truffle breakfasts for everyone, but do they listen?

 

If you say so. You commie you.

 

Lol.... You leftist extremist love your projection . Saint Saul alinsky would be very proud of you !!!

 

no, I don't

 

I voted other because all of your options seem to be loaded.

The Ukraine is not our concern why are we sending billions of dollars over there when people need it here.

The question is do we fight off Russia for them and if so do they become our vessel if not then it isn't worth it.

If they can't find out Russia themselves they never will be able to.

So we'll either need to make Russia our vassal or Ukraine our territory.

This will be a forever war.

 

Currently, there is no evidence of any culprit on who committed the sabotage, other than we know that it was sabotage, not a mere accident. The question after that, which nation had the motivation to want the pipelines destroyed? You can do the math on that yourself.

As to Tucker's comment, he pointed out that Biden, in public, actually threatened the pipeline. Is it a crazy conspiracy theory to point out what Biden said in public?

 

How about just "Woke Armies of the West". We could call them "waa" for short

 

I can't think why.

 

It shouldn't be part of ANYONE's mindset. It's a ****ing abomination.

It only makes sense to those who don't give a damn about the planet, and who are hellbent of gaining absolute control.

 

A fairly cartoonish explanation for the mammalian survival instinct, to call it 'fear'. But then we declare our animal instincts 'problematic' according to the ideology du jour, don't we - and of course many are problematic in a context greater than a small tribe.

However the survival instinct of the social mammal (that which you refer to as tribal fear) is the least problematic of them all. It's the only one which actually comes close to actual benevolence.

 

They said they were afraid it might make Catholic Schools reluctant to hire their band for dances. I thought that ridiculous, nobody has bands for dances anymore