Why is the media still lying about Ivermectin?

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Why do you keep saying that?

    Ivermectin has not been approved for treatment or prevention of COVID.

    And, that is the issue.

    WHO has approved it for conducting tests only - not for general use.
     
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    The CDC and FDA do not agree that ivermectin is useful in preventing or treating COVID.

    Your issue of pneumonia is well known. The fact that I do know about that is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.
     
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    you've already exposed your profound ignorance on the subject maybe it's best if you stop.
    It was approved in 1981.

    If the who is wasting their time on this they are profoundly worthless as an organization to establish authority on.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Again the ignorance is just profound. Ivermectin wouldn't be used to prevent or treat covid it would be used for treating the symptoms and it was already approved for that.

    When you have no clue what you're talking about probably shouldn't talk about it I know you heard Don lemon and Stephen Colbert tell you something about this but those people are stupid and you shouldn't listen to them.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Out of curiosity what artifact of covid do you think causes ivermectin to become deadly?
     
  6. WillReadmore

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    ???

    PLEASE read my posts before you accuse me of CRAP.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Everything you said in this thread was crap.

    I don't have to accuse you of anything you just do it.
    Do you have any idea of what symptom it is that most often leads to the death of somebody suffering with covid?
     
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    Please stop posting on this subject.

    Neither of us are medical scientists. So, discussing the reasons for or against any particular treatment is just plain stupid.
     
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    people who don't like the truth always try and stop it.

    The only thing I don't understand is your emotional connection to this. Why do you need to beg me to stop?
    You don't have to be to understand a little bit about a drug and its use. I mean honestly I don't consult the medical scientist when I take ibuprofen for a headache.

    Maybe you should turn off the mainstream media and stop listening to people that feed you the information you have. Your information does not come from the CDC or the FDA because I reckon was approved as an antiviral and 81 to pretend they just then revoked the approval magically because of covid is absurd.

    You can know something about this if you seek knowledge. Seems like you're the only thing you're a seeking is authority.
     
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    I don't think you understand what FDA approval is.

    FDA approval determines whether or not a drug or food is it dangerous and if it's dangerous and to which dose it needs to be administered in order not to be dangerous.

    The FDA approved the drug for human use and 1972 I believe. As it was safer than aspirin. It was then later approved as an antiviral in 81.

    It's already been approved and deemed safe. If you treat people with it and it doesn't do anything it's still safe.

    The drug was used to treat symptoms of other respiratory infections with quite a bit of success. To think the magical covid is somehow different it needs specific approval doesn't make sense in this your argument is of ignorance.
     
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    Straight from the FDA:

    "The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals. Ivermectin is approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea.

    Currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19. Clinical trials assessing ivermectin tablets for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 in people are ongoing.

    Taking large doses of ivermectin is dangerous.

    If your health care provider writes you an ivermectin prescription, fill it through a legitimate source such as a pharmacy, and take it exactly as prescribed.

    Never use medications intended for animals on yourself or other people. Animal ivermectin products are very different from those approved for humans. Use of animal ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 in humans is dangerous."


    Anybody here who reads and understands English want to compare and comment on Poly's claims ?
     
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    So what if the FDA doesn't approve of ivermectin being used to treat covid?
     
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    Awesome ! Next you’re going to tell me , so what if the FDA doesn’t approve of drinking bleach to treat COVID ?!
     
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    I know you think you're making a smart point here.

    The FDA determined this as safe 40 years ago that's what the FDA does the FDA does not prescribe treatment doctors do that.

    Your point isn't smart it's actually really kind of ignorant.
     
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    I have repeatedly pointed out that the FDA has tested ivermectin formulations for humans and found them to be safe.

    So, your accusations are just plain FALSE.

    And, what I was saying earlier about your propensity to promote your personal view of medicine is not appropriate. Neither you nor I can claim medical science expertise on this board.

    If you have something to say about the effectiveness of medicine, then CITE IT - like I do.
     
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    And why is it that after almost 2 years, our knowledge of effective treatments is almost nil? The health field needs to remember their oath concerning treating suffering. It seems they have forgotten it during this vaccine push...
     
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    Wow, that is so DRAMATICALLY contrary to my experience that I just have to ask how the heck you came to that conclusion.
     
  18. Polydectes

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    what the hell are you arguing with me about?

    You're just repeating what someone told you to think. You don't even know why you were told to think this I know why.
     
  19. WillReadmore

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    Yes. I'm repeating what the FDA and CDC have said.

    And, I would suggest that others look to science based medicine, too.
     
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    so you agree that ivermectin is FDA approved and therefore not harmful even if you have covid?
    By what you mean don't look at science-based medicine but agree with you because what you say is science-based medicine is just your opinion.

    Science-based medicine what it indicate that prescribing as a therapeutic would be a good idea.
     
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    Testing has been done to verify that formulations of ivermectin are safe for humans.

    The FDA and CDC recommend AGAINST using ivermectin as a treatment or preventative for COVID as there has been no successful clinical testing for efficacy. WHO says the same, though they specifically allow its use in clinical testing.
     
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    right because it's safe.
    I don't doubt for a minute that the FDA and the CDC would say something profoundly stupid like this but the fact that you believe it or pretend to believe it most likely shows me that you aren't very skeptical about things.

    They didn't test the vaccine you don't test stuff while people are dying of a pandemic. You try to help them with what tools you have.

    The reason why they say this is because they don't want it used as a therapeutic because if there are therapeutics then emergency approval of the vaccine goes away.

    Just because you blindly trust whatever government tells you to think doesn't mean I'm not stupid.

    IT DOESN'T NEED CLINICAL TESTING IT WAS TESTED IN THE '60S IT WAS APPROVED 40 YEARS AGO
     
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    ???

    Why is this such a difficult topic for you?

    It was certified by the FDA to be safe and to be effective for treating certain diseases - BUT NOT COVID.

    What you are failing to grasp is how our medical system works.

    The FDA is not going to certify ivermectin for use in either preventing or for treating COVID until clinical testing shows that.

    This is what is required for ALL our medications.

    It is what was required for certifying ALL the vaccines available today for any disease, not just COVID.

    It is what has been required for ALL our prescription drugs and for medical procedures and equipment.

    Now you come along and suggest the prescription drug ivermectin should be certified for use in preventing or curing COVID WITHOUT CLINICAL TESTING???

    Seriously, does that make sense to you?
     
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    I'm going to go over this one more time.

    Ivermectin was tested in the 1960s it was approved for human use in the 1980s.

    It doesn't need to go through clinical testing to make sure it's safe again nothing has changed there's no magical artifact of covid that when in conjunction with ivermectin it kills people.

    It could be determined that it is a viable therapeutic.

    The covid-19 vaccine has not gone through testing. If you have the vaccine you are the test.

    It had to go through emergency approval. The FDA loses emergency approval of the vaccine.

    I understand and accept how it works I'm criticizing it for its stupidity. The fact that you can't see it is a pity for you I hope I'm never as blind a follower As You Are.

    FYI I take your frustration with me as a compliment I love being able to frustrate pawns.
     
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    Your mockery is even hacky. It doesn't make sense because the FDA never approved to drinking bleach to be safe they have approved ivermectin to be safe.

    So if somebody comes into the hospital possibly dying from covid the doctors don't just walk up to the patient and say "well **** you you should have got the vaccine." They have to do something to treat the patient. And because ivermectin is safer than aspirin starting them on a dose of that would be unconsequential even if it did nothing.

    Forcing them to drink bleach would kill them because that's poison.

    The reason why I think you were convinced of your position is because the political idiots you listen to are mouthpieces for the drug companies. Ivermectin is three dollars a dose and drug companies can't make billions off of human suffering. So what they want to do is sell a drug for $3,000 it does. They use their lemmings in the media to convince you that somehow ivermectin is horse to warmer so that if you go to the hospital with a case of covid even after you've been "vaccinated" you'll say no ivermectin I might become a Republican.

    And they'll say "oh goody now we can make thousands of dollars off of you rather than a couple hundred." What else would we expect from a society that pays $1,400 for an iPhone.
     
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