Why Obama was right to say "if you like your insurance, you can keep it"

When the ACA idea was being floated around, many people thought the government was going to take over the health insurance industry. I wonder where those people got that idea? Anyway, since people thought that government was going to take over the industry, they were scared about losing their beloved Blue Cross and Blue Shield or Aetna and then being forced to buy the government insurance. This is not the case.

So when the President said, "If you like your insurance, you can keep it.", he wasn't lying.
1. Nothing in the ACA says that you must get rid of your health insurance.
2. Many people may get cancellations, but they can still keep their insurance company. Only the policy will change and you are not forced to buy government insurance. All those people that got cancellations, did not lose their insurance. They only lost their policy. They were not forced to leave Aetna and buy a government plan. They got to keep their insurance.

If someone stressed a concern to the president, "Im scared that Im going to lose my insurance and be forced to buy the government plan, since the government is taking over health insurance.", then the president was correct to tell them, "if you like your insurance, you can keep it."

Some of you will say that some people who had crappy insurance can no longer buy that insurance and this will force them to buy the governments. Sure and those policies could have been grandfathered in as long as they didn't make drastic changes; ie, co-pay, premium, deductible, etc. But the insurance company chose to no longer offer them, nothing in the ACA says they couldn't have been still offered. And of those policies that were decent, but didn't meet the ACA standards(by not covering the 10 essential things) could have been amended instead of cancelled. The insurance company chose to cancel instead of amend for there is nothing in the ACA saying they can't.

Now, since the GOP/conservatives complain about the media being "liberal", I wonder why no one in the media is telling the liberal side of things? The context in which Obama made those statements, which was during a time that people thought the government was going to take over the health insurance industry.

 

Ya, what a complete crock of (*)(*)(*)(*).

You cannot keep your plan if it doesn't meet the standard set by AMA/Obamacare. Also, if you're doctor isn't on the Obamacare plan they see fit for you, you cannot keep him/her. That's a fact. Obama told the American people time after time that if you liked your plan, you could keep it, and if you liked your doctor, you could keep him or her. The OP has spewed nothing but dishonest drivel.

 

Isn't it shameful how they will lie and distort for their ruling class? The apparatchiks have come to America.

 

I see you guys have been retooling your talking points. If this is the best you've got after a month, you guys better concentrate on just making the statement go down the memory hole.

 

Please stop. Just stop. Its over. You lefties had your moment in the sun and you completely and perfectly failed. Obama lied point blank. Its not open to debate. Its now historical fact.
These types of threads are just illustrating how pathetically desperate the left is getting. Its called denial. Come to grips with it and start putting the country ahead of Obamas failed storybook utopia which....LIKE WE TOLD YOU, does not exist and never will.
Reading these threads is getting very uncomfortable, its like watching a dog that's just been hit by a car try to crawl back to the side of the road.

 

I know, which means that you didn't lose your insurance and were forced to buy the government's. You got to keep your insurance!

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Well, of course its not debatable to someone who is closed minded. That's kind of the definition of closed minded.

The point is that he didn't lie, but the fact will remain that you will not be able to understand no matter how hard you try.

 

It's called Progressive revisionism propaganda. Haven't they been claiming that it was the GOP not Democrats that were and are Ku Klux Klan? No different here, they're still trying claim that Obama didn't lie to Americans about Obamacare. It's 'Obama's House of Lies' coming apart.

 

The hard reality is if your "plan" doesn't meet those standards, it's a piece of garbage and should be illegal in the first place. President Obama didn't "lie", he made a mistake in how he spoke of the situation, with NO intentions of misleading anyone. That's not a lie, that's a common thing we all do from time to time. The only reason you guys want to latch onto it so desperately as a so called "lie", is because in all this time he has not really given you anything to complain about as a deliberate deception, unlike the former President. Go learn the defining differences before carelessly using the terms "lie" or "Liar" so randomly, because it really shows ignorance throwing them at situations that don't apply.

 

You got anymore apologists garbage, "dropping the bush card, and a juan Williams talking point? Next, who the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you to decide who's who's plan is garbage or not? Oh ya, buy the way when you repeat something that turns out not to be true, its a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie.

 

This garbage was probably part of the trash NPR put out the other day for leftwingers to regale relatives with during Thanksgiving dinner. I think it was their latest version of a health care plan, the notion being that if you can make all of your guests puke up their dinner then they will remain slim and trim and therefore healthy.

 

lie
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noun
1.
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. Synonyms: prevarication, falsification. Antonyms: truth.

2.
something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.

3.
an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood.

4.
the charge or accusation of telling a lie: He flung the lie back at his accusers.

verb (used without object)
5.
to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. Synonyms: prevaricate, fib.

6.
to express what is false; convey a false impression.

If there was any "lie" in what Obama said, it was only through the false impression that he had in not knowing people would want to keep insurance that cost too much money, didn't cover what the law set to correct, and was basically everything already wrong with the healthcare system. "Gee, we're so sorry you can't keep your potentially hazzardous junker of a car that doesn't meet the safety standards of the road and may pose a risk factor to everyone else!" LOL!

Truth be told, that is not a lie, and you know it. Now if you want lies, just ask the GOP!

 

The state of denial the obamabots have sunk to is sad.

 

Obama lied. All those people who lost their insurance exclusively because ObamaCare engaged KNOW that he lied to them, that he smiled at them via television or their monitor screen . . . and deliberately, knowingly lied to them again and again and again.

 

"Having Insurance" means having a policy. The mandates kept a huge number of people losing their policies. Of course it was a lie.

If you were a 60 year old woman and your policy, that you liked, did not include maternity benefits, the mandate caused your policy to be cancelled.

 

You wish. Dream on dreamer.

 

Pssst . . . pain hurts, water is wet, ice is cold and Obama lied. Known facts one and all. Denial is not a river in Egypt. Embrace reality.

 

Nope! I explained how he didn't lie. People thought they were going to be forced off of Aetna and then forced to buy government insurance. They thought(incorrectly) the government was going to take over the insurance industry.

The only thing that happened was people lost their policy............they didn't lose their insurance! If they liked their insurance, they got to keep it! No one is forcing them out of their original insurance so they can buy the governments.

Im sorry you guys don't understand this. Im starting to think you CANT!

 

Nope. The insurance company could have amended the policy to bring it up to ACA standards.

Cancellation gives people the idea that they no longer have any insurance whatsoever.
Amending gives people the idea that they still have coverage, its just going to be amended.

I wonder why the insurance companies, who hate Obamacare, would cancel instead of amend???? Ahhhh because it makes the ACA look bad. They could have amended the policies, but OH NO, they choose to cancel them just to make the ACA look bad.

 

We just completed open enrollment at work for 2013... guess what? I clicked a button online with no changes to this years policy and I'm set for next year.

 

Hahahahaha! This is a beautiful example of how the non-thinking half of the Democratic Party's voters managed to convince themselves to bypass Hillary Clinton in 2008 in favor of WORSHIPING a first term U.S. senator with no national level experience or management or leadership history to speak of.

For the impossible of thinking . . . if you have lost your policy then you have lost your insurance. Obama lied and policies died. "If you like your health care policy then you can keep it, period."

Unless the fellow does some truly outstanding things between now and election day 2016 that statement will go down in history as indicative of this president and his administration. It's Barack Obama's "Read my lips!" statement from a historical perspective.

 

Excellent! Wonderful! Good on you mate!

Now just fix things for the millions of Democratic Party voters ENRAGED with their party's leadership and with their president because unlike your fortunate event their policies got cancelled or their premiums are skyrocketing due to ObamaCare . . .

 

But their policies could have been amended, but the insurance company choose to cancel them instead.........because it makes the ACA look bad. Imagine that. The companies that don't like Obamacare did things to make it look bad when they could have done things that would have had no negative effect on Obamacare. Imagine that!

There is nothing in the ACA that says you are forced to lose your insurance and now you have to buy the governments. NOTHING!!!!!

 

Those insurance companies had absolutely no choice but to comply with ObamaCare law; a law rammed down this nation's gagging throat by the Dem leadership and by a grinning "If you like your current policy you can keep it, period," Obama. There's lots and lots of enraged Democratic Party voters who are probably NOT going to be voting in 2014 and perhaps not even in 2016 in protest over what their own leadership collectively did to them.

 

Another manifest example of retardation and how to spin the ridiculous.
That ObamaCare ISN'T the Government taking over one's health.
I guess healthCare.gov shouldn't have { gov} in the moniker.
How about the Governments use of FOUR type plans.Platinum,Gold,Silver,Bronze
This is what's to be expected when a mafia like grip overtakes this Country.
It's the Government's WAY or the Highway.24/7.
No amount of spin is going to change the abject obvious.
Obama's ability to use a corrupted Mainstream Media to his full
advantage has approached the point of no return.A Law of diminishing return.
Because,even those who have been grafted in the MSM are in jeopardy.
Double jeopardy,in fact.They'll lose their jobs lickety split if even considering
to bad mouth this Big Brother government.

 

It is still the $ 64,ooo question.As to WHO actually wrote Obamacare.
Was it Obama czars.Guys like Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel.With a lot of input
from Lobbyists.
I think the forcing stuff came under Pelosi's auspice.
But NO... Healthcare providers and Insurance policy writers amend
all the time.It's part of their job.This " Grandfather " bidness is just an inconvenient
truth.