Why the Asian Diaspora succeeds in the West

We'll be 'cream'. White + yellow. I can dig it

 

When the trump pee video surfaces.

 

IQ, IQ, IQ. Asian success and black failure can be summed up in two letters: IQ. Asian IQ scores are 105 to whites' 100, black IQ scores are a full standard deviation below that of whites, 85 to 100. Superior IQ scores lead to superior financial success, not all the time and not for everyone, but over time and over a population, the link is indisputable. Jews do much better than Asians because their average IQ is 117 to Asians' 105. All over the world, population subgroups do better or worse than the local population based on their relative IQ's. In Uruguay, Mennonite farmers do better than the native population because their average IQ is 100 while the natives' IQ is only 79. In Liberia, American-descended blacks do better than native African blacks because their IQ is 85 while the natives' IQ is only 75. In the US, the Hmong people have an average IQ of 82, and have a poverty rate of 37.8%, far higher than the rest of their Asian cohorts. In Appalachia, the average white person's IQ is only 85, about the same as for blacks, and poverty, high school dropout rates, and teen pregnancy rates are similar (though not crime or single motherhood rates). IQ does an excellent job of explaining a whole host of variables across populations without taking anything else into consideration.

 

Are appalachian IQs only 85?

I've never heard of this before, but it would explain their relative poverty. Perhaps a bit too much inbreeding?

 

Link?

 

No link, but references: The Bell Curve, by Herrnstein and Murray and IQ and the Wealth of Nations, by Lynn and Vanhanen. Both have come under repeated attacks and condemnation for saying what others find appalling to hear, but no one has challenged their underlying theme, that IQ is a significant predictor of success in life, for individuals, groups, and nations. Among nations, only economic system (capitalist v. communist) is a better predictor than average IQ for financial prosperity, and among individuals, nothing is, not socioeconomic status of the parents, not educational attainment, not the environment of the child. In very poor countries, nutritional inadequacy can reduce the IQ of children not getting enough to eat, but in Western countries, this doesn't seem to be a factor, since kids in the West have more of a problem with obesity than with insufficient food.

 

You deny the US internment camps for fellow citizens of the enemy race? Its still a concentration camp, albeit with better facilities and no mass killings.

 

compared to the Nazi concentration camps and the Soviet Gulags, the Japanese Internment Camps were like fancy hotels.

 

Wow, I think I finally know what a dog whistle is! Nobody mentioned black people at all until you brought them up. Could you please elaborate on how you think blacks are inferior to Asians?

 

It's slightly higher than that, but you are close, about 88. So yes, I there does seem to be correlation between IQ and poverty. I don't know about the inbreeding though.

 

no comparison at all.

 

sorry, that's what the Alt-Right believes.

they believe blacks are either culturally inferior, genetically inferior, or both to Asians and Whites.

 

You brought up Black people in a thread about Asians. That has nothing to do with the "alt-right" and everything to do with you. So why do you think Blacks are inferior to Asians? In what ways do you think they are inferior to Asians?

 

The average IQ of caucasians is 100, and inbreeding is known to reduce IQ. Between that, poor diet, and probably a healthy amount of child abuse, it could push it to 88 with ease.

The same is found in muslims where inbreeding is cultural. Want to get married? Find a first cousin.

 

Except that IQ is made, not born. Newborns are blank slates. Intellect is 'fired up' in the first months and years of life, via direct engagement with a primary care-giver.

 

That ol' tabula rasa idea was thrown out back in the 50s.

 

You dont know your history

The chinese arrived in America with nothing and were no more welcome than blacks were

 

Doesn't matter what white westerners think of it. Many cultural groups don't believe in IQ at all ... primarily, the very groups who presently outrank westerners in terms of intelligence. Awkward!

 

lol! They know all about IQ.

 

As a proud "Appalachian" (with roots to the 1600s here) with "Appalachian" friends all over the country in the highest echelons of professional and entrepreneurial practice, three colleges and three major hospitals in my "Appalachian" town, the "88 IQ" thing is horseshit unless it is tied to some bizarro definition of "Appalachia" other than the one in the wiki link below. Cite it or retract, and I can't believe some of the otherwise rational people in this thread espousing it. Go ahead and tell us some more about IQ based on geography or domicile in contemporary America. Maybe then tell us about the predictive powers of phrenology or divining with bigfoot scat. I'm sure there are pockets of less mentally able "mountain folk" -somewhere- -out there- in the hills... all over the country, but seems some people need to do a refresher on the many functional, modern, leading cities in "Appalachia" today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachia

"Since its recognition as a distinctive region in the late 19th century, Appalachia has been a source of enduring myths and distortions regarding the isolation, temperament, and behavior of its inhabitants. Early 20th century writers often engaged in yellow journalism focused on sensationalistic aspects of the region's culture, such as moonshining and clan feuding, and often portrayed the region's inhabitants as uneducated and prone to impulsive acts of violence. Sociological studies in the 1960s and 1970s helped to re-examine and dispel these stereotypes.[3]"

To the topic, IME the reasons Asians have succeeded in the U.S. is that they have maintained the pillars of their spiritual (but not necessarily religious) heritage, Confucianism, Buddhism, Taoism, etc., in the face of Western consumer culture. Sure, there are exceptions, materialistic Asians, but I've not encountered that many over the years, especially not in comparison to Westerners awash in consumerism. They -do- spend on certain consumer goods, but you'll often find very wealthy Asian families living relatively modest lifestyles. They are not known for spoiling or indulging their children, which is also key in multigenerational success. Their marriage rates are high, divorce and illegitimacy rates low. They are also not prone to the excesses of the American mental health industry, which tells everyone they are a blameless victim in need of medication as opposed to a person of weak character in need of discipline and focus.

 

Who does? The people making the best of it? Or those who aren't?

 

Right but Appalachia is not a breeding ground of...inbreeding. First cousin marriage is also legal in California and Colorado, not exactly filled with large Appalachian populations. If I had my way, first cousin marriage would be illegal in every state but I'm sure the 14th amendment protects incest...

Anyway Appalachian IQ is a bit of a misnomer. I Googled around and could only find that low an IQ among American white ethnicities among those who ethnically identify as 'American.' So from the notes I read that's mostly Scot-Irish people who don't know their own background, so it's a self selection of people who are not the brightest to begin with. In any case, 'Appalachian' and 'American' are not real ethnicities, but you are correct that IQ varies among differing ethnicities.

 

How racist..... good to know there's no Asian gangs or criminals.....

 

yep, no crime in Asia.

none at all.

no mass-killers either.

 

I did say that I had never heard of this before. I should have looked at the data before replying, but... sorry.