Why the world should adopt a basic income

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Maybe. Reiver also told me that there were hot singles in my area who were dying to meet me.
     
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  2. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Reproduction of capitalist profit does. Alternatives such as reliance on imperialism aren't typically available!

    I love the attempt at irony.
     
  3. Longshot

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    Proof that the dole is not necessary for capitalism is that capitalism existed prior to the dole.
     
  4. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Already showed the naivety in that. First, labour analysis has had to adjust to understand the importance of involuntary unemployment. Second, early capitalism's reliance on alternative mechanisms such as imperialism are not on the table.

    Keep up!
     
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  5. Longshot

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    Imperialism? Are you talking about statism? I'm talking about capitalism. You know, being able to freely exchange with others.

    There is no reason why capitalism requires a dole in order to exist. It has existed without a dole, so there's your proof.
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. I knew you were a teenager. Kid, when you grow up you'll find that tossing off an insult then running only makes you look weak and stupid.
     
  7. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    That you are insistent on personal attack only informs me that economic comment is beyond you. That's the natural of fascism mind you
     
  8. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    This is interesting. Are you unaware that early analysis into capitalism focused on imperialism? Didn't the group think right wing sites mention it?
     
  9. Longshot

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    Only a state can engage in imperialism. You're talking about statism, not capitalism.
     
  10. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Capitalism and the state went hand in hand. Your pathetic utopianism is dead dull
     
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    I think when we each use the word capitalism, we're talking about two different things. When I use the term, I mean the system in which people are free to exchange with whom they choose. This has nothing to do with statism. What definition are you using?
     
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  12. Reiver

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    I refer to history of economic thought. You refer to group thought site.
     
  13. Longshot

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    If you don't provide your definition of capitalism, I have no idea what you're talking about.

    The free exchange between people has no reliance upon the state dole and could continue very well without it.
     
  14. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. Kid, what economic comment? Your fantasy of a socialist "everything is free" world? That fact remains you didn't like my comment and you've been throwing a hissy fit ever since.
     
  15. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You seem to need to rant. No problem. I appreciate that's the right wing norm. Get through it and then refer to economics!

    Good luck
     
  16. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not at all. When you mature another 10 years or so, you'll understand that honesty is the best policy and that, while dreams are nice, reality is what it is.
     
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    He's scampered. And we still don't know what he means when he uses the term 'capitalism'. My guess is that we never will.
     
  18. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's fine. Typical of kids; they dream a lot which is fine too. Like the saying goes:
    "If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a middle-aged conservative, you have no head."
     
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  19. Reiver

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    Still no content. That's the trouble with the far right (other than authoritarianism and democide etc etc etc), they can't muster a valid economic argument.
     
  20. Longshot

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    Can't answer that question, because I don't know what you mean by capitalism. Can you define your terms?
     
  21. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, too busy to play your silly question game. Pick up a dictionary if you are struggling. Amusingly I've already given a definition to you, demonstrating how your script is stagnant
     
  22. Longshot

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    If you refuse to define your terms it's impossible to have a meaningful discussion. Have a nice day.
     
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  23. Reiver

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    Given I've already given you a definition, you do make me laugh
     
  24. Longshot

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    Post please?
     
  25. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You want me to copy and paste what I've already typed to you? Use the search facility. Your memory issues do not interest me. Until you can post an actual economic argument, you are just wasting my time. Bye
     

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