Why Trump Is Panicking

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  1. Arkanis

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    We'll know when Cohen will be charged.

    The evidence against him was strong enough to get a warrant.
     
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    It's already done.

    The firm where he works fired him.
     
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    Well, now that it is apparant the Cohen taped many of his converstations, we'll get to hear how Trump's fixer worked.

    I suppose he was actually dumb enough to think that this sort of thing would not become public knowledge. As long as he was the fixer for a crooked real estate developer, it probably would have.

    And given that the Mueller probe has all of Cohen''s records, and Cohen really only has one client, there's a virtual treasure trove of payoffs to sift through. Not to mention Cohen's dealings with the Russians during the 2016 campaign.
     
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    Why do people think this?

    There is no need of evidence, there is only need of probably cause.

    And the probable cause, ascertained from the leaked info thus far, was Cohen's own statement about how he paid Stormy with his money.
     
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    Well, good luck getting Congress to codify anything effective to that pursuit.

    And the reason for it is the same reason why none of them want to pass tax reform.

    They all benefit from loose scrutiny of their offices just as they all benefit from the hundred thousand loophole tax code.
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, you only need probable cause, but when going after a Lawyer, you need to get it signed off by a high level supervisor (Rothstein in this case), as well, Judges are generally loath to sign search warrants on Lawyers without a clear case that it is necessary.

    This isn't the same as getting a S&S warrant against a general member of the public. It's like asking cops to go after their own. It's extremely rare.
     
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    If Trump watched Rachel Madow last night, he should be panicking; http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/...n-takes-shape-ahead-of-schedule-1209836611594
     
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    Don't see it happening that way... I think Cohen has imbibed all the Kool-Aid there is and will go down before the SS Trump...he's a Trump lifer...
     
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    Because there are far too many millions of hypocrites just like you who are brainwashed by the liberal media and the know-it-all celebrities and the deep state convincing you that he is the devil and you are angels.

    Kind of like the Jews being destroyed by the Romans. You will win for the present but ultimately find a horrible fate because of your pride and your denials of the obvious truths you refuse to believe.
     
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    So, you have seen this 'information'?
     
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    Same for me when I did some contract work at NASA facilities.
     
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    Like Flynn, Manafort, Gates, Bannon and Papadopolous?

    They were all gonna sink Trump, yet after all these months Trump is not a target of any criminal investigation.

    You guys are like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.
     
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    If Trump falls it's because God has ordained Trump to fall - since He has control of all things. Blaming the MSM is a cop out.
     
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    Well then, pass a law requiring that info to be disclosed.
    You don't get to raid his attorney's home, office, and hotel room trying to find it.
     
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    I only consider people's opinions on God if they themselves believe in that one true God.
     
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    Just the other day libs were claiming Mueller had nothing to do with this.

    You need to get on the same talking points page.
     
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    I didn't - The Trump appointed Justice Department did on a legal warrant. Trump laid the tracks for this train wreck.
     
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    You claimed he was already indicted.

    Hmmmm.......
     
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    My opinion of God has no bearing on whether He is in control or not.
     
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    I wasn't speaking about 'you' specifically. No shocker that flew over your head.
     
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    Oh, I got it. I was just illustrating that it wan't random liberals who were raiding Cohen's office. It was a Trump controlled Justice Department with a legal warrant to do so.
     
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    So?

    The warrant clearly wasn't for seizing Trump's taxes, was it? The feds don't get to just use anything and everything they confiscate in a situation like this.

    You will just have to continue to whine and cry about not seeing his taxes.
     
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    They only care about the crimes, so privilege is not an issue.

    when a client asks for assistance in wrongdoing, the answer must be “that’s illegal, and the answer is no.” A lawyer who crosses the line risks serious consequences, and the client—note that privilege belongs at all times to the client, not the lawyer—is not entitled to assert claims of privilege over such discussions.

    https://www.quora.com/If-a-lawyer-a...-still-protected-by-attorney-client-privilege
     
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    Trump is not panicking. He's just mad.

    In America, we're supposed to begin an investigation after we find evidence of a crime. But here, we launched an investigation in search of a crime.

    A classic case of the cart before the horse. And thoroughly anti-American. We live in a banana republic.
     

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