Why Trump Won

Not that a large county would make your grossly incorrect statement any less incorrect, but you DID say "heavily populated minority" area, which would be a place where a polling station would be nearby. There aren't any heavily populated minority areas where people are driving long distances ( that feel like 2 counties over) to get to their polling location.

As far as the "rest of your post", it was little more than getting your hand caught in the cookie jar and then yelling "hey look, a squirrel!". You were trying to change the subject, and I am far too savvy for that diversionary tactic.

You were verifiably wrong. Own it.

 

You can't be serious about that last part in bold?! She lost because she was a (*)(*)(*)(*) candidate with a history riddled with corruption, an attitude of disdain for almost all people, enough fake accents to make Madonna and Britney Spears jealous, and an inability to connect with real people on any level. Add on to all that her stupidity with email and classified information, all we learned through authentic emails, and you have a recipe for why she lost.

I did spit a little when I laughed out loud that your polling station caused her to lose. That right there is the whole universe revolving around you. I'm also wondering why any "heavily populated" area would have many polling stations? Have you addressed it to your state's election board? That's serious business....and that I'm not at all kidding about if true.

 

No, you are far too smart to challenge the facts of those other parts to my post.

And Arizona has heavily populated minority areas with big counties.https://www.google.cl/search?q=coun...=0l2WWI3eB4SUwATB3oHADw#imgrc=5yVjk6xiCGkhvM: Not a long drive you say? Texas has large minority areas and big counties as well.

 

"If true"? So you just admitted you don't know then, while spitting out all that ignorance, revealing the fact you really don't know. Lol! How reckless of you to trip over your own bs.

It's a shame you are incapable of engaging the facts I presented with any kind of serious rebuttal. Got anything else brilliant to offer up besides hatred and your admission of not knowing?

 

You're one person who presented something as fact without supporting it with data. I don't know you from Adam and it sounds odd that you'd have to drive across 2 counties to vote when most areas have multiple voting locations in "heavily populated" areas.

I'm fully capable of engaging in any discussion you'd like to have, even those you fill with insults like the one above. I listed quite a few facts about why she lost. There are surely more reasons, but I tried to keep it short for you. I noted that you didn't dispute any of them in your "attack the messenger" response. And I still don't know if you were telling the truth or not, but with the way you engage others in discussion, I highly doubt the factual accuracy. I'd suggest providing some sort of proof at this point because you lost credibility with the above.

 

Someone else on this forum thought it important enough to make small talk about two counties, by twisting my message, which by the way was worth (*)(*)(*)(*) on a bo hog, while ignoring the data I presented that you say I don't have; http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/4/13501120/vote-polling-places-election-2016

http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/

https://www.thenation.com/article/t...e-supreme-court-gutted-the-voting-rights-act/

So, are you interested in challenging these facts I presented for the second time, that no one else wants to challenge, that proves the reasoning as to how Trump won, that you already admitted you didn't know about? Or would you rather continue with your ignorant tirade and useless attacks of Clinton that will not explain away my claim, or help your non-existent argument, from your previous post?

 

If you take the time to look back, I told you flat out that if your situation is true that you have a serious situation that needs to be addressed to your election commission. I didn't challenge the factual basis for your info, but said it sounds quite odd, which it does. Trump still didn't win because your polling station was 2 counties away. Sorry. Your candidate sucked and the election was bigger than your polling station. There's a poetic irony to your links to election fraud while your party claimed there was no election fraud, don't you think? And many of the claims of closing election stations (allegedly by Republicans) took place in 2013, right? I'm pretty sure I know who was in charge back then and I'm pretty sure he'd have done something about it if it had potential to harm his party's ability to retain the White House.

Keep attacking, though. The broken clock theory still holds.

 

There was no election fraud, and the party "was" right. There was voter suppression by people in authority. Big difference! And I did present those facts.

And you didn't present me with any facts of Clinton's corruption? So I fail to see any facts that you have presented that can be used as a counter argument by you?

 

Have you addressed your experience with voter suppression to the proper authorities and your representatives? I concede if you say it happened and you had sources, then so be it. Just sounded strange to me and boggles my mind that the people tolerate it since it was a "heavily populated area." That's the stuff (peaceful) protests and calls to elected leaders are for.

Interesting. You never asked for facts of her corruption, but it's funny that you mention it now since you were inundated with that info for the last year. But I'll get you some links so you can feel comfortable with knowing she is corrupt.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441573/hillary-clinton-corruption-foundation

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/hillary-clintons-corruption-and-collusion/

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...roversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/

Let me know if you need more. There are literally troves of articles and stories about her. If any of these surprise you, it may be time to change the TV channel.

 

Of course lobby groups bought politicians. Term limits would help.
What lobby groups own Trump?

 

Haha. Bet bank you aren't American.
Texas is not the south. But thanks for your input on our voting system.

 

I get that people are tired of politicians, that they're corrupt. But how do the people who voted for Trump not see that he is unstable as a leader? He can't possibly be good for our foreign affairs, look at what he's done already and it's only been two weeks! Do Trump supporters truly not see it or do they not care?

 

Texas fought for the confederacy. And Georgia is in the southeast, while Texas is in the southwest. And your welcomefor the geography lesson.

It's also a shame you are incapable of challenging the information I gave that proves to us all, that the election was stolen, not won.

 

You know, you have proven to be disingenuous and dishonest. And I didn't even open your other two links because of it. The first part in the first link states, "It appears". Down further it states, "we will find out". Except for one thing, they never did, proving you were lying to me about her corruption. No one to this day has proven corruption, including you.

Many people have spoken out about voter suppression, and how the election was stolen. The facts are there, that have already proven this. Whether the Left has enough power and clout to change that ruling, is another matter? I doubt it. Corruption through money is a very powerful force in this country. Sometimes as a strategy, it may be best for corruption to fail on it's own. We have a president now who is mentally unhinged, unqualified, embarrassing, uneducated, pathological liar, tax cheat, thief, sexist, xenophobic, racist, bigot, and a few others I can't think of. With that kind of resume, it's a safe bet Trump and the party are going to be exposed for who and what they are. Even with corrupt voter suppression, the election should be so one sided it won't matter. If the American people can't see him for who and what he is by then, then the American people deserve the disaster from which they will receive.


What a shame it is, that people have to lie to stay in a debate.

 

If you believe she's not corrupt, that's on you. It's been demonstrated publicly for more than a decade. Your refusal to admit it falls completely on your blinder-wearing attitude toward what you disagree with. It's all out there and your side simply chooses to ignore it, overlook it, or deny it, but none of that makes it less true. Seriously, I just pulled the first few....you can literally read about her corruption all day by Googling: Hillary Clinton corruption. It's THAT easy if you're not too afraid to look. I suspect that you won't, though, because it'll work against your denial instinct, as your post above proves.

And I was neither disingenuous or dishonest. I conceded your point about driving 2 counties and offered suggestions to correct it. If you don't, that's also on you. I personally wouldn't tolerate it and would take action, but liberals tend to sit at home or out on the streets and just whine and tear up other people's stuff instead of acting in a constructive way toward real change.

Stolen election. Please. Remember this....Trump may not have even been the Republican candidate without YOUR party colluding with Clinton, Podesta, CNN, NY Times, MSNBC and others to give Trump a free ride worth billions in air time. They set it up in the expectation that Hillary could most easily beat him versus the other Republicans. They miscalculated and lost. The candidate was crap and you can't hide that with smoke and mirrors in today's informed times. Everyone doesn't view him with the broad paintbrush of name calling that Hillary and the media provided to you and your claims of me lying should really be supported by some kind of proof to keep you within the forum rules. I'm pretty open with how I feel and have provided all you asked for in supporting evidence. That you have hurt feelings over it is your problem, but I'm still here if you wish to continue whining about how polling locations caused your candidate to lose. It's just another in a long line of excuses rather than a good look in the mirror for her to see she was the problem. Heck, she could have actually gone to some of the states she lost instead of assuming their big cities filled with folks getting all the democratic handouts would be enough to carry her. But no, she was lazy and made really poor decisions based on false numbers in fake polls provided by a corrupt media she knew to be corrupt because she was working with them to take corrupt actions against Bernie and Trump.

 

You made the erroneous claim that Clinton lost because too many people had to drive 2 counties over in order to vote, and I more than adequately have displayed that claim to be 100% false, and basically fabricated within the recesses of your brain. My work is done.

Arizona has heavily populated minority areas with big counties?.....so what ? Are you trying to pretend like that somehow refutes anything that I have said ? You do know that there is more than one polling location in a county, do you not? What exactly is it that you are trying to say ?

 

Actually Texas is a buffer between the South and the United States

 

Thanks for making my point.
It is always entertaining to read what non-American posters have to say about the US. Florida is just south of my state, Georgia. It isn't ever considered a southern state.
The north doesn't include North Dakota.
The north and south, terminology wise, in the US don't extend west of the Mississippi.
Americans don't care what other countries think about us. Especially our politics.

 

The US south as Americans refer to it is right of the Mississippi, north of Florida, and south of most of Virginia.
When we say "the north" or "the south" it is very east coast, original 13 colonies.
Texas borders Mexico which is indeed south. As do many other states.

 

Pivoting from the argument by switching to Florida because Texas is in the south, while you said it wasn't. Lol! So much for your argument right?

Not that any of this has anything to do with the election being stolen, is just testament that you have nothing to offer as a rebuttal to the facts I presented on how Trump won.

 

The South and The North as Americans reference them are east coast, typically the 13 original colonies. As geographically southern as Florida or Texas is, neither would be referred to as Dixie or The South.
Organ or Alaska would never be called The North. Yankees are only from New England states and Yank is a term we don't use.
As far as US politics go, I told you point blank, what non-Americans think of my country's politics is something I don't contemplate or care about.
I am perplexed by the American obsession and complete lack of discourse regarding your country's issues.
We don't contemplate anything European unless we are planning a vacation.

 

They also are not considered colonies either, and Texas fought for the confederates. None of this again has anything to do with challenging my facts about how the election was stolen.

None of this is relevant to challenging my information as to why Trump won.

You are unable to engage the thread. Thanks for reinforcing my suspicions.

 

Americans will sort out their politics and differences. It's one of the many reasons we are so awesome.
Why would I waste my time discussing anything about my culture that you are completely ignorant of?
We really, really don't care at all what other countries think. Their opinions are so irrelevant. We forge our own path and always have with absolutely no desire to imitate others.

 

Georgia Army is right if we worried about what other countries thought it last weekend up is effed up as they are on the other hand we have always been a contentious group of people that is part of the reason why Japan and Germany declared war on this because they lacked the diversity that results in our contentiousness what happened to Germany and Japan after Pearl Harbor and what happened in the Arab world after 9/11 should be a lesson to the world on how we unite during times of attack

 

Your unfamiliarity and ignorance of my culture have plenty to do with you trying to discuss our politics.
We don't care what non-Americans think about pretty much everything we do. We aren't the smallest bit interested in global popularity or imitation.

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Your unfamiliarity and ignorance of my culture have plenty to do with you trying to discuss our politics.
We don't care what non-Americans think about pretty much everything we do. We aren't the smallest bit interested in global popularity or imitation.