Why was New York Unprepared

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    And there was no human to human transmission, reported by the WHO and their budies the chiners..
     
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    can't say Trump did not know after he stopped some travel to and from China, that is where Trump's excuses end, from that point on he should have known
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No evidence or indication whatsoever of any willful wrong doing by the W.H.O., but that won't keep you from spreading the right wing conspiracy theory because "so saith Trump"

    I never claimed to be good at this. I only claim being better than you. Which I know is a very low bar.
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Sure there is, it's been posted DOZENS OF TIMES.. So, we are going to start the day off with the ridiculous Golem? If that's the case Bro please go play with the other folks that refuse to use the tools Bill Gates made available with your operating system, shewww scat!!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The value of conspiracy theories is not measured by the number of times it's posted and re-posted, but by the facts, evidence and its merit. I'm sure there are at least as many wingnut pages out there making wild claims about the coronavirus, as there are about how the Moon landing was fake. But that only works on those who are too lazy to look for actual facts. Forum rules indicate that you should make the arguments, and external pages be used as a reference but not to make your argument for you.

    Bottom line: I have no idea what the W.H.O. did or failed to do but "go look for it on the internets" is as poor an argument as you will ever hope to find.

    You're right that I'm lousy at this. But, to improve, I'll heed tips from those who is better than me. Not worse.
     
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    He did, hence the guidelines that he put out. It’s a tragic thing that the mayor of NYC ignored them and encouraged New Yorkers to go on about their lives.
     
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    Well that's pretty much a gimmie with the majority of subject you reply to, so why should the above be any different Golem?
     
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    Thank you for accepting that Dirty Donnie is a moron and needs to go. Those who depend on divine intervention don't belong in public office.
     
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    SO Trump (sorta) bans travel from China...and allows 40,000 people to return without quarantine

    And then did what?

    Did he stop flights from Europe?

    Not for six weeks?

    Did he make preparations for returning travelers from either China OR Europe?

    No?

    Did he get effective testing started?

    Masks?

    PPE?

    Respirators?

    No? That was three months ago

    He did hold rallies with thousands in tight spaces though huh...
     
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    Ya I suppose you'd be an expert on that!
     
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    Trump should have known what??

    All Trump has been doing is listening to the advice from his advisors that's it. You can go back in January and February and even March and listen to the comments made by his advisors. They were the ones who were telling us this virus was not something to worry about, that we were at low risk, that the CDC and NIH could handle it, etc... We had other "experts" saying it was just a respiratory infection and our doctors know how to handle the respiratory infections, and on and on and on
     
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    Trump doesn’t have the power to tell individual states to lock down citizens.
    He did make US military bases available to quantine people.
    His last rally was in feb, on feb 29th dr Fauci was saying people did not have to change their daily behaviors.
    Trump issued guiideljnes for states, so followed it...nyc ignored the warnings
     
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    You've been making claims that you can't support since the first time I read a post from you. So no, I never thought this time you'd show anything different.
     
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    New York was not prepared because their local government, Governors, were self indulgent and unprepared. They spent more time blaming everyone else but themselves.
     
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    Well my approach to silly banter, is why should I expend high energy on low energy nonsense..

    See I addressed that garbage in less then 29 words! :nod::nod: :thumbsup::rock_slayer: :roflol:
     
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    All the apologies and deflections won't hide the fact that Dirty Donnie, because of his ignorance, greed, and lack of interest in anything that doesn't benefit himself personally, not to mention that he chooses to surround himself with even more ignorant bum-lickers, is responsible for the deaths of ,as of today, 36000 Americans.
     
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    So, to you, sending references so we know where you come up with what you claim is "high energy"?

    It's your "low energy nonsense", you know! :roflol::roflol:

    So funny how you lost track of the whole discussion. You made a claim, and I pointed out that you didn't show any evidence.... and now you say that your own claim was "low energy nonsense" :roflol::roflol: :roflol::roflol:

    I hate that little laughing guy icon.... but this is just too hilarious!

    But I do have to say that I could not agree with you more....
     
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    Damn you couldn't even get a 29 word explanation right, I may have been far to generous with my assessment of you :shock:
     
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    Don't you mean Chiner. You don't think they had a thing to do with it? Where in hell you get your news, here on PF :wierdface:
     
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    I believe you're referring to China. I know that was a typo. It's just reminded me how Trump expresses his racism and xenophobia by changing the name of people and countries he hates.

    But no... The poster is correct: Trump is where the buck stops. Unless you have evidence that China created the virus on purpose. Or that our spies in China were on the Communist Party's payroll. I'm pretty sure you don't.
     
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    As a minimum, China withheld information on the virus allowing it to spread more than it should. It is also possible that the virus came out of a Chinese Lab. It was not necessarily created on purpose, but they lost control.

    Trump is no more responsible than a number of democrats. Pelosi and Cuomo encouraged the Chinese celebrations to go on. Biden said Trump was fear mongering. The WHO downplayed the whole thing as did Fauci. A lot of people were wrong. Trump may be president but that does mean he should have had forsight that others did not.
     
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    No I meant what I wrote.. Please don't tell me what I'm referring to Golem.. And I beginning to tire of your trolling and now insinuating that I'm a racist and xenophobe because I refer to China as Chiners.. See you want to play the game but you cant stay civil, you always have to slide in personal insults and has to end with a moderator.. Look, you know has this always ends, so why don't you do yourself a favor and stop, while you think your ahead or at least before you cross that line?

    Hopefully we're done now ;)
     
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    No , I mean Dirty Donnie not CHINA. And I get my news right from the source.
    You should try it some time instead of blindly defending the moron in the White House who, apparently, depends on foreign governments for intelligence and campaign support.

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    And quarantined hundreds when tens of thousands were pouring in. Great job huh?

    Feb 29th. Four weeks after he shut down flights (sorta) from China...so clearly he knew there was a pandemic coming and did it anyway...just two weeks before NY shut down the state

    Oh...
     

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