Why was there no investigation of the Bidens started 1/20/2017!?

Wanting a job is something of value to the person accepting the position, but that's a mutual agreement between the employer and employee.

Sorry, but I just don't understand how wanting to be President is an impeachable offense.

 

He could have issued two executive order before going to the Innaugeration Balls. Nor to get dirt of Bidens and the other one to make up schiest on Hillary.

 

No response.

 

Biden did not blackmail anyone. Biden was sent to get a corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor out at the direction of the US government, the IMF, and the EU. The US government, the EU, the IFM was rightfully concerned with corruption in Ukraine. The corrupt prosecutor Shokin was not prosecuting corrupt oligarchs or corrupt politicians.

The EU, the IFM, the US government did the right thing by wanting the corrupt prosecutor out or aid credits and lain guarantees would be withheld.

What Biden delivered was doing the right thing. That other was only asking for investigations to help him political campaign.

 

Yeah well, the man has been busy. Hillary is a political time bomb, just as going after Biden has proved to be one.

Still wondering what the "something of value" is. Hillary is a nothing, Biden suffers from dementia, and Trump is going to win 2020 because the democrats are a bun, a bit of wasabi, but no beef patties.

 

Whether he was doing the right thing, or not, is not relevant. The bit about helping his political campaign isn't either. He's the President, and can do that kinda thing.

Don't like it? Too bad.

At the end of the day, Trump will win, and there's nothing democrats can do to stop that. They are a field of nothing, and that's my prediction.

 

Ouch!

 

He clearly did blackmail Ukraine:

“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.

Biden fired the prosecutor that he could not control, who was investigating Hunter Biden's former employer, and replaced him with a solid prosecutor he could control.

Where in the aid bill did congress give Joe Biden the authority to interfere in an ongoing criminal investigation of a foreign government? It didn't.

Biden should not have been within a million miles of that investigation, because his involvement would make it look like he used $1 billion in US foreign aid as a tool to interfere in a criminal investigation to keep his corrupt son out of trouble.

 

It worked for Hilary, and Joe, well.... it seems that this not investigating people running in a campaign for President only works for Democrats. Trump is running in a campaign for president, and the dems in the House have no problem investigating the living crap out of him.

 

Exactly.

It's very likely that Trump was not aware of what Biden did, until he was caught on video bragging about it in Jan 2018. For the next few months people may have been looking into it. Besides, Trump needed to wait until the Mueller investigation was over. And waited to see if the corrupt government in Ukraine might be removed after their election.

What is wrong with Democrats, can't they put two and two together?

 

Trump's fans can't answer the question.

The answer is, the Bidens did nothing wrong.

 

So you are saying that a POTUS or more specifically this current POTUS is above the law. No one is above the Constitution.

Yes having the president of Ukraine announce an investigation against a political opponent in this case Biden is something of value. It would move some people not to vote for Biden. That would be wrong no matter if Trump wins or not. Look at it this way.If a guy attempts to rob a bank but is not successful the guy would still be charged with attempted robbery.

It does not matter that that it is likely Trump will win. What matters is that Trump did commit an impeachable offense. An impeachable offense does not have to be a crime.

Tomorrow the House will issue the articles of impeachment. What is important is that no one is above law or above the Constitution.

The Senate will not remove him because thecSenate is corrupted with Trump fans butbwevstill need to have the House impeach the guy.

Would I have done it this way . No I have said no long ago. I would have used the employed resources of good honest Americans to defeat this POTUS in the next election.

 

Wrong wrong a million times wrong. Shokin was not investigating Burisma.

Where is your evidence that Burisma was being investigated.

You have nothing and I knkw that, and you know that, and anyone who is awake knows that.

 

No, you still haven't identified the value. Is it getting a job? If so, then you're left with a resounding "NO!!!!!!"

A job is a matter of trading your ability for a monetary gain. It's a net positive, but are you saying that just wanting to be the president is an impeachable offense?Is that the case?

Is being the President a value?

 

Because no one knew what was going on with the Bidens till Trump blew the whistle

 

Huh?

So an admitted crack addict/drunk navy drop out who slept with his brothers dead wife, gets a job with Ukraine while his dad his VP and one claims nothing is wrong with this picture?

 

An assumption with zero facts in support of it is just an assumption.

Actually there was a laundry list at the beginning of the conversation. Biden was a much later throw in not really connected to the rest.

Of course they can put two and two together. They just always get some random number greater the 25.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...-evidence-in-2017-alleging-clinton-foundation

Look here

 

The video evidence didn't come out until 2018
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

 

But assumptions are all the dems have.

Well maybe not all, they also have presumptions, speculation, rumor, hearsay, gossip, conspiracy theories, et al... But factual evidence, that they are fresh out of.

then again, the dems only need facts when it's a democrat in trouble. For republicans rumors, hunches and gossip are the only bar they need to rise above.

 

If you were smart you not make allegations against other members.

 

If a member is walking and quacking like a duck....

 

You are completely and totally wrong, incorrect, inaccurate, and not right.
Shokin the corrupt prosecutor who Biden convinced Petro Poroshenko to fire in no longer in power. Lutshenko who Zalenskiy fired is not the prosecutor. Biden is no longer our VEEP. Shokin and Lushenko are corrupt but Guiliani is the corrupt personal hawyer for Trump. Guiliani a corrupt lawyer is working with Shokin and Lutshenko two corrupt former prosecutors. Guiliani is also working with two US citizen criminals currently under indictment by the US - Furman and Parnas.

SoGuiliani is in bed with four, 4, corrupt bags of filthy scum- Shokin, Lutshenko , Furman, Parnas.

Joe Biden has not help public office for almost three years now. Young Boy Biden has been off the Burisma board for nearly a year.

So Guiliani the official personal lawyer of this current POTUS is teamed with at least four corrupt guys and criminals.

 

That is utter BS. Trump did not blow any whistle because Trump himself a corrupt soul did not give a crap about corruption anywhere. The so called Burisma "corruption" crap was made up by a charlatans named Soloman who peddled his schiest to the conspiracy swamp dwellers and conspiracy swamp followers. There also must be Russian involvement. Yes I am sure that some will chant "Russia Russia" but real patriotic Americans as I am are open minded to the threat from Russian propaganda. Sadly too many Trump fans believe Russia , Trump, and Putin.