Why Was Trump's Presidency So Successful?

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  1. Lucifer

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    I would think it odd you would quote someone in hell.
     
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    Well like your J6 show trial? You are really telling us you have had so much practice framing Trump, this one will stick! For sure! We are better at now! We got him!
    Spare me the histrionics.
     
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    I love how this woman proves that she is a diversity pick every time she opens her mouth. She almost as embarrassing as Captain Shitzhizpantz at the helm, seemingly trying to hit every iceberg he can find.
     
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    Say Hi to him for us "Lucifer"
     
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    He’s not going there. He was saved and had a relationship with Jesus Christ
     
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    christ was a little too old for lombaugh, though he may have had relations with a boy named jesus on one of those viagra and oxycontin fueled vacations in the dominican republic.
     
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    All Christian persons have a relationship with Jesus. One can’t be a Christian without a friendship with our savior.
     
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    are catholics chtistians?
     
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    Do Catholics believe in Jesus?
     
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    Why Was Trump's Presidency So Successful?

    In what way?

    Foreign Relations: he didn't abandon our allies nor did he encourage Ukraine to challenge Russia

    Immigration: he didn't invite everyone in

    Economy: he didn't cancel oil and gas deals and then decide a year later that we needed them
     
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    Foreign relations : trump abandoned the kurds and surrendered to the taliban

    immigration. "he did not invite everyone in" is a rather low bar that all 21st century administrations cab reach.

    who cancelled oil and gas leases? the biden administration has issued thousands of drilling permits that the companies are sitting on.
     
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    Well I can spare you many things but your If you aren't one of us you are one of them thinking is your own problem to resolve.
     
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    He could have cured cancer and walked on water, but he didn't now did he?
     
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    How funny... cancer?....we will leave that up to crime boss Joe Biden.. And Joe can't even ride a bike, so walking on water is out of the question...
    Joe Biden: 'We're gonna cure cancer' if I'm elected.

     
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    LOL and Trump promised to cure cancer and AIDS. Campaign Promises and $3.00 will get you a McDouble.
     
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    Apparently the govt works pretty well when instead of doing what the intrntl prog elites want, the CnC just spends all his time triggering them on Twitter.

    The Trump admin was only a success in relative terms. He failed to accomplish the vast bulk of what he platformed on (due in no small part but nor due entirely to obstruction), but more importantly he just wasn't letting his advisors wreck everything.
     
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    "My budget will ask Democrats and Republicans to make the needed commitment to eliminate the HIV epidemic in the United States within 10 years," Mr. Trump said during the address Tuesday night. "Together, we will defeat AIDS in America."

    https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-promises-to-defeat-aids-but-his-record-raises-skepticism/#x
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-hivaids-promise-during-state-of-the-union-2019-02-06/
     
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    Possibly he will when he sees you chastise your own side the same way that you chastise only one side
     
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    Unemployment increased under Trump.

    Trump left office with the lowest GDP average of any modern President.

    Lumber prices were increasing before Trump left office.

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    Yes - you are oversimplifying ...

    Trump promised to reduce the National Debt, but ended up increasing it faster than Obama.

    Trump promised a health care package saying he had a better plan - he left it with, "health care is hard ..." and introduced NO plan.

    Trump promised infrastructure bills, but was never able to put one together and get it passed.

    Promised he wouldn't have time to play golf - ended up spending $120 million of taxpayer money playing golf (more than Obama spent in 8 years).

    Trump laughed at Obama for never breaking 3.0% GDP growth ... Trump never broke 3.0% GDP even before Covid, and left office with the
    lowest GDP average of any modern President.
     
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    The only legitimate comparison statistically you could make between Biden and Trump if the thing about which the statistic were being monitored were a constant condition starting before one presidency, and extending beyond the next presidency. Given the fact that a pandemic started after one presidency, grows, peaks, valleys, peaks again, due to factors beyond the control of the president and ending before the next presidency, is therefore the stats of which are not something one can compare one presidency to another, it's a specious comparison.
    Trade between nations are not the cause of inflation, though they can swing prices just as if you jump into a pool you will create waves, but the water level won't rise unless you pump more water into the pool. It's similar with the economy.

    This is a classic 'correlation isn't causation' logical fallacy. Inflation is cause by quantitative easing (money printing) whereby fiat dollars circulate the economy and injected at a rate faster than the GDP can absorb the dollars causing a condition called 'too many dollars chasing too few goods'.

    Did this happen?

    Yes, once with Trump's $2 Trillion stimulus, and his $1.9 T tax cut (partially financed by fiat dollars) and Biden's $2T stimulus Also a contributor were foreign supply chain shortages ( because foreign nations didn't get the vax quick enough, didn't get Covid under control as fast as the US, etc) and gas prices are due to the war in Ukraine. So, in ultimate terms, the inflation is due primarily to the pandemic, because, but for the pandemic, there wouldn't have been stimulus packages and the need for so much fiat currency. But, the fact is, both Trump's and Biden's stimulus packages contributed about 50% of inflation, the rest is due to supply chain shortages and the war in Ukraine

    The point is, blaming the inflation on presidents and not the pandemic and the war in Ukraine, really isn't fair.
    No, Trump is a super salesman. History is replete for people voting for someone who winds up hurting them. (Hitler, anyone?).
    But there is no denying Trump, on TV, once proclaimed a ban on ALL Muslim nations. Yes, he back pedaled, but Saudi Arabia was excluded from the Ban, which is weird because all of the perps of 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia, not to mention Trump had a Hotel there.
    He also said 'And some [Mexicans] I presume, are good people'. Only some? Trump and his father were once sued by NYState for 'discrimination against blacks' ( redlining blacks on lease applications).

    https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

    Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”

    In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

    A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

    I got lots more if your are interested in Trump's racism.
    You're confused. Being dangerous for peace doesn't require starting a war, one can still be dangerous and not have started a war, and one can be better for peace by entering a war. Does anyone deny Roosevelt's helping Britain in her quest for peace a good thing for stability in the world? Does any one question Truman's ending the war by Hiroshima? Your criterion for that is wrong.

    And besides, I don't recall that being the salient claim, but he was a destabilizing force in the world via his creating chaos in America, all the riots happened on his watch.

    Hate crimes leaped just after he took office. The attack on the capitol was his doing, entirely. his subverting democracy is a betrayal of his oath of office and making him one of the greatest threats to national security more than any president in history. And I won't even mention he talks like a fourth grader, can't even utter a compound sentence. That might not be a big deal with most people on most jobs, but for the President of the United States, the most powerful position in the world, where words matter and millions hang on his every word, not being able to articulate with precision is a dangerous handicap. Wars can get started over misunderstandings.
    Mankind has been polluting the earth for a long time, period. This is a silly argument 'one president is greener than another'. What was the first thing Trump did when he took office? He pulled us out of the Paris Accord. He lifted a regulation that allowed corporations to dump their toxic waste into local streams. Why? Because one of the chief opponents to the Obama regulation were Golf Course owners.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/climate/trump-environment-water.html

    Wonderful.

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...p-vs-biden-environment-heres-where-they-stand

    TRUMP: The Trump Administration rescinded several Obama-era climate reports and memos that required the government to place greater emphasis on climate change in decision-making. Trump also repealed an Obama executive order requiring rising seas be taken into account during federal infrastructure projects. His National Park Service director ended an Obama plan to manage parks with an eye toward climate resilience. And he pledged to stop contributing to the United Nations’ international “Green Climate Fund.”

    BIDEN: Biden has proposed spending $2 trillion to reach zero emissions by 2050. He plans to host a global climate summit during his first 100 days in office. A National Intelligence Estimate would be created that assessed threats to national and economic security from climate change and create a government plan to promote clean energy exports. Biden said that in addition to rejoining the Paris Agreement, he’d push countries to increase the ambitions of their climate targets.

    In summary, your OP is basically not reality.
     
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    Yep he doesn't control gas prices, that doesn't mean he can't help to get them lower. DUH.
     
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    Trump was on the verge of a recession in 2019... BEFORE COVID

    the fed doesn't do this during a great economy... that the economy was great pre-covid is one of the biggest lies the Republicans ever told.


    "Fed Ups Its Wall Street Bailout to $690 Billion a Week as Media Snoozes"
    Oct 2019

    https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019...ilout-to-690-billion-a-week-as-media-snoozes/

    and

    "The Federal Reserve Has Already Pumped $9-Trillion into Wall Street in the Past Six Months, and Now Is Offering Banks Another $1.5-Trillion" March 2020

    https://needtoknow.news/2020/03/the...d-now-is-offering-banks-another-1-5-trillion/
     
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    exactly, they can't admit Trump was a failure, it's so sad!
     
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    Trump put Trump first.... no one else
     
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