Why We’ll Never Bake Your Fake ‘Wedding’ Cake

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  1. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    Why should I pay any attention to your incorrect posts?

    Do you think that homosexuals getting married is a civil right?

    Do you think that someone that refuses to accommodate them is violating their civil rights?

    Isn't violating someone's civil rights punishable with prison?
     
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    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    That's not a government problem, that's a biology problem.
    I wasn't aware that spitting in the face of a homosexual was not against the law. But if you throw Christians in jail for being Christians, then that does effectively suppress religious groups. I didn't know that past generations of gays were enslaved.
    Yes, words mean things. Otherwise, who are you to discriminate against a union of three same sex partners?
    For former slaves. It is one of three amendments known as the Civil War Amendments which by the way, was a war to free the slaves, black slaves, not a war to free homosexuals.
    You don't know what a neocon is do you?
    Fighting back or just getting even for perceived persecution? Whether it is malicious or just selfishness, there is no difference.
    Agreed. You don't have to be gay to fall into those categories.
     
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    You don't really know what it is.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    He simply runs in circles and plays games, you know that don't ya, discussion is not his motive to be here.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, we also have passed law that says same sex couples can get married.
     
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    The first amendment protects the free expression of religion.

    I don't think that the free expression is being abridged.

    I am the one claiming obedience isn't morality.

    I'm not either.

    It depends.
     
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    Yes, I do. It's good to know that that others realize that. I just like being a voice of reason.
     
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    Hmm, incorrect .. so you should have no problem actually showing where they are incorrect, or are you under some delusion your opinion is enough.

    It shouldn't be about whether it is a "right" or not .. if they want to get married let them, it really has no effect on you personally.

    I think someone who refuses to accommodate them based purely on their orientation is violating their rights.

    Not always no.
     
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    You can easily join with other non-gay serving bakers, and put a sign up saying so in your door.

    I'm quite sure the gay community will be more than willing to take out ads in local papers, go on the internet etc. and let everybody know of your policy. In fact, I know of no way you'll be able to stop them.

    I'm not gay, but I'd certainly never deal with you, and I know many others who won't either. We don't like people who stand against everything America is supposed to be for, like tolerance and freedom.

    I think pretty soon the problem will be academic as your businesses will no longer exist.
     
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    I just find them all amusing, watching them run around and around in circles chasing their tails as if catching them will make the slightest difference.

    I also love pointing out where their precious scripture has been bastardized by biased translation and interpretation.
     
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    And fraudulently so, obviously.

    Doesn't matter, marriage is between one man and one woman.
     
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    Well like all puerile that claim God has an opinion, it's really their opinion.

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    Except it isn't.
     
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    I don't care about your incorrect posts.

    Now you are just parsing words trying to avoid answering the obvious question, what to do with people who violate the civil rights of gays by not baking them a cake, or catering their wedding, or photographing their wedding, or providing a chapel for their wedding, or issuing them a marriage licence, or presiding over their wedding, ect.
     
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    I think I'll open up a bakery and call it the Gay Heterosexual and cater exclusively to straight people.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    Straw man #1. No one is forcing you to follow their religion. What they are doing is defending their own right to practice their own religion. Because you do not have the right to impose your will on them and force them to commit apostasy. It says so in the First Amendment.

    Besides, some bakeries accept gays.



    Straw man #2. They're not refusing to serve gay people. They're simply refusing to bake a gay themed wedding cake. There's a difference. If a straight person came in and tried to order a gay themed wedding cake, they wouldn't make one for them either. Everyone is still getting served equally. These bakeries simply have their own standards of things they are not willing to make. And I'm pretty sure gay themed wedding cakes are not the only thing on that list. If you tried to get them to bake a Satanic cake with a pentagram on it, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't do that either. Or a cake with vulgar language on it. Or one with nudity. By trying to force these people to make specific things that you want them to make that might be offensive to them, you're just trying to control their product. And you're being very selectively discriminatory about it toward Christians. Because if you'll notice, nobody ever tries to make Muslim bakeries make gay themed wedding cakes. Hmm.... I wonder what their stance would be.
     
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    they tried to use the same arguments for interracial marriage and slavery, even saying they had a God given right to own slaves
     
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    I, for one , won't do business with them. If the gay community decides to blacklist them I doubt many others will either. There are plenty of other people who will be glad to do business with gays and they'll get all their business. Under capitalism bigotry has a price and I think it will cost the bigots their businesses. Isn't capitalism grand
     
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    Isn't socialism grand you mean. You see, the social engineers have determined that this violates
    the civil rights of gay people and therefore, those that violate other people's civil rights must be
    punished with fines, penalties, loss of jobs, loss of business, and prison.

    All because of their religious beliefs.
     
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    Any faith worth worshiping, is worth sacrificing for. Your God and/or your Bible asks for sacrifice, and provides plenty of inspiring stories and examples of Christians who had take one for the 'team'. They took some pretty big hits. They lost their lives , their homes, their reputations, even their children. So sacrifice for your uncompromising faith. Give up either your business license or some of your money to keep your high Christian values and stop whining. Nobody promised you 'living your faith' would be easy. Geez I hate wimpy whiny Christians.
     
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    The government needs to be scientifically literate, especially when the facts are this retirement

    The face spitting was metaphorical, and nobody wants to throw you in jail for being a Christian. At worst some people will get fined until they serve everyone.

    The fourteenth amendment is applicable to GSM because of the wording, regardless of of that was an expected result. That's how law works.

    If you really have no idea how genuine and awful homophobic discrimination is, you aren't worth
    talking to
     
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    You will simply be ignored and laughed at as with most Christian "Beliefs". Eventually you guys will rewrite your books again to join the century...usually long after the world passed you by.
     
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    Scientifically speaking, only a male can mate with a female.

    What if those evil Christians refuse to pay the fine?

    The Fourteenth Amendment is not applicable because judges are supposed to consider original intent. Homosexual marriage was not the original intent of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    If you are a heterophobe then maybe you should stay in the closet.
     
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    Or you will simply be ignored and laughed at by the majority of Americans until the cure for homosexuality is widely available.
     
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    Homosexuality is not the new black. That is offensive to blacks.

    Not all Christians want to deal with the hassle or risk losing their jobs or businesses at the hands of the gay nazis.
     
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    Gays and lesbians don't need a "a cure."

    Sure wish there was cure for bigoted, authoritarian homophobic (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s though.
     
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