Why would God create billions of other galaxies?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by gophangover, May 4, 2016.

  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,141
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Very very few people can make a choice completely out of their comfort zone and in direct opposition to their values.
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,141
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    With or without God, the answer is false.
    Our choices are a product of us and will follow patterns.
     
  3. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,535
    Likes Received:
    52,098
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree with that. But I don't know that free-will requires them to do so. It seems to me that what is critical to free will is for the choice to be caused only by one's self. With free-will we can choose to be entirely selfish if we like. It is up to me how I choose, nothing determines my choice. My decisions are made for the purposes I have in mind.
     
  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,141
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not everyone can choose to be entirely selfish and may never make a selfish decision. And there are some who are nothing but entirely selfish.
    Everything up to that point in ones life has gone into determining ones choice. And some peoples nature never changes and they make the same type choices all the time.

    Don't psychologists have people put into 5 type of categories? Are there A type, B type people? All those people categorized make similar decisions all the time.
    You have leaders, you have followers and those in between. A leader could never be a follower.
     
  5. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    17,005
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Yes,...
    But we have the power of "Yes or No."

    Ideas come into our head.
    We can decide to follow them out or ignore them.

    What Chirst said was that we must say yes to ideas which are supported by the truth, and deny lies as a way and means of behaving.
     
  6. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    17,005
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Psychologists say there are a dozen different dominant ways people can be thinking, and we each are born genetically with a propensity for one of those ways.
    Hence we tend to see the Reality from that point of view.

    The thoughts that come to us, then are the same for that kind of personality.
    But our decisions, in each case, still require us to use our Conscience, say No or Yes, or forget to do so, and sin.

    - - - Updated - - -

    But Jesus said we must choose Truth as the light into the future if we, as men, hope to survive, and avoid extinction as a species.
     
  7. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2015
    Messages:
    6,983
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Exactly, that's what everybody says. When one has no argument, they turn to bs. Or act as a child.

    KJV Genesis 1:6
    And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven

    Genesis 1:16
    And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth

    Job 37:18
    Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

    The Bible dictionary of Firmament is the same as sky or heaven. Therefore if the two great lights, (sun and moon), along with the stars were placed within the firmament, and the firmament is strong and as a molten looking glass, also holding waters from above, it is safe to say we have never been to the moon. For if we have, we would of had to break through the firmament (they cannot), because that's where the moon is, and we would have been flooded from the waters above.

    If you choose to believe those who try to destroy or hide the word of God, I'm sure you know the consequences. I hope you can turn towards Jesus, and see this. "Those with eyes, let them see". This is not talking about people just having eyes, it's a parable, that's saying those of God's people let them see what is going on. For those without God, cannot see. Their deceptions are everywhere. For if one says Christmas, one thinks of gifts or Santa Clause. If one says Easter, they think Easter bunny and eggs, especially kids.
     
  8. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,535
    Likes Received:
    52,098
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think they could. Certainly they could chose not to lead.
     
  9. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,141
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You've said that several times. People have offered you all kinds of proofs to show the curved earth. You ignore. Your very eyes can show you.
    Insanity is difficult to reason with. Some philosopher said.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I don't think they could. They may try, but in the end, they will need to have things done their way.
     
  10. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,535
    Likes Received:
    52,098
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've heard that he said we must chose truth and to walk in the light but I'm unfamiliar with the rest of that. Where is it recorded that he said the rest of that?
     
  11. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,535
    Likes Received:
    52,098
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think he is trolling.
     
  12. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2015
    Messages:
    2,720
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sell crazy to someone else;I don't believe in superstitious nonsense.
     
  13. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,141
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't know. He has an entire thread on the subject. Started out in science, laughable. And then was rightly moved to the conspiracy forum.
    But his posts do fit the troll type or unreasonable.
     
  14. clarkeT

    clarkeT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2016
    Messages:
    949
    Likes Received:
    467
    Trophy Points:
    63
    How pretentious it is of Christians, to claim they know what 'God' wants or what 'God' intended? Really? And they know this how? There was an episode of Law and Order, Under God, where ADA Jack McCoy was prosecuting a vigilante priest who claimed that 'God' told him to 'kill a drug dealer'. I loved his sentiment in one scene, 'God told me to do it, it pisses me off to no end' referring to the priests testimony on the witness stand. The jury didn't buy it, and neither should anyone regardless of the matter when one infers to know 'what 'God' wants, knows or intended!
     
  15. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2015
    Messages:
    6,983
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Actually you do. If you think the earth is a ball, you very much believe in superstitious nonsense.

    God is not superstitious, and I hope before it's your time you see that, for your sake.

    - - - Updated - - -

    There you go, compare God and Christians to Hollywood. WOW! Is this where you get your information, adults getting paid to pretend, or as children would put it, "play house".
     
  16. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2015
    Messages:
    6,983
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Your absolutely lying, there is no proof of the earth being a ball. They also have claim to have proof of landing on the moon. I'm sure this proof you believe as well. However if you used your own head, instead of bowing to those who have instilled lies in it, you would notice that the picture of earth from the moon, shows the earth to be as small as the moon appears to be on earth. This is impossible. The earth from the moon would look gigantic. This alone raises questions, however for people like you it does not. You was not taught how to think, you was taught what to think.
     
  17. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    5,433
    Likes Received:
    743
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Impossible.
     
  18. Pax Aeon

    Pax Aeon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2015
    Messages:
    7,291
    Likes Received:
    432
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    `
    `

    Because I told Her to.
     
  19. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    5,433
    Likes Received:
    743
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wow! Even the Catholics don't believe the world is flat any more.
     
  20. clarkeT

    clarkeT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2016
    Messages:
    949
    Likes Received:
    467
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Is that how you see it? You really don't understand what I was trying to convey? Are you really that dense? How many instances/stories of actual crimes committed 'in the name of 'God' would you like me to provide for you? Whether one is talking about what they think 'God's' plan was or is for the infinite universe or that 'God' revealed to them that they must take some sort of action on behalf of 'God', it's nothing more than hubris! Get a clue.
     
  21. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2015
    Messages:
    6,983
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    All a psychologist is, is someone who get's paid to put up with people whining. Prescribes them a drug and sends them on their way. People are very gullible. Nobody is going to become a psychologist if the money wasn't good. Therefore it's the money they care about not the person.
     
  22. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,924
    Likes Received:
    31,867
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Instead of looking at the evidence and asking what conclusion it supports, you are starting with the conclusion you want and explaining away the evidence no matter where it goes. You've abandoned falsifiability completely, rendering everything you say about proof and evidence completely meaningless.

    "If God exists, then we'd expect no collisions! If there were no God, we'd expect collisions. No collisions, therefore God!"
    "Um, there's a collision coming."
    "Well, you see, if God exists, we'd expect collisions, therefore God!"

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4f/39/ea/4f39ea4d24c0e69f73a8dafbd9dc175f.jpg
     
  23. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2015
    Messages:
    2,720
    Likes Received:
    1,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your crazy train has gone completely off the tracks.
     
  24. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,141
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You are right about 1 thing so far in these forums. I've been taught how to think.
    You obviously can't state the same about you.
    I am not the one who fell hook line and sinker for lies.
     
  25. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,141
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You just proved my earlier post about thinking and being taught. You don't even know what a psychologist is.

    A psychologist is not able to write prescriptions
    http://www.efpa.be/psychologist-psychiatrist.htm

    Best you don't infer about another's education.
     

Share This Page