Why would I worship and love a "God" who ordered infanticide?

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  1. Questerr

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    "You belong to your father" =/= "you are your father"
     
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    Jesus' real name was "Lord God Jehovah, Junior".....but he preferred to be called "Indiana".

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    No problem. Matthew 19:8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

    10 His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.

    11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it.”

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    And I and my father are one does not equal I am my father. As I pointed out it could (and does) mean that they are one in intent. Not personage.
     
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    Sure it can. Just curious, you reject Jesus's divinity and the Trinity yes?
     
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    I reject Jesus being God because #1 Jesus never claimed to be God and #2 he explicitly denied being God.

    And yes it CAN mean that if the context agrees. But the context doesn't agree does it?
     
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    So how are you a Christian? You must reject Paul's teachings as well. By almost all of Christianity, you are a heretic.
     
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    A Christian is someone who follows the doctrines teachings and examples set forth by Jesus Christ. I'm not a Paulian. I'm a Christian.
     
  8. Questerr

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    A Christian is a follower of Christianity, which is defined by 99% of the believers as worship of Jesus Christ.

    You reject Christianity and have invented your own religion.
     
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    What are you talking about. Jesus Christ is the prophet of the religion. Paul didn't even have ANY intention of writing scriptures that we would read two thousand years later. He was an early church leader who was addressing specific problems in specific churches. He had no intention of writing scripture or that his teachings would become doctrine.

    Jesus on the other hand had EVERY intention of his teachings being followed for years to come.

    Further Christian is transliterated as being "Christ-like". We are to follow the example of Jesus Christ. I'm sorry if all of your ammunition for attacking Christianity comes from the OT and Paul. Maybe you should try to address Christianity based on the teachings of the person who brought it. Oh but you can't can you? Because he doesn't give you any ammunition.
     
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    A teaching against divorce......(better let Limbaugh know)....but says NOTHING about homosexuality.

    UNLESS you try to "cross-reference" it with something from someplace else in the Bible....but YOU can't do that, as you've said we have to ONLY look at the Gospels, nothing else.

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    I'm very curious as to what church Immortal goes to....what denomination?
     
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    Back up your claim about Paul's intentions.
     
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    I've told you his name was Truth in 32AD.
    That us why the scripture says he is the son-of-Reality, which is a thing all sane people need delve within.

    This statement is so true that it does not even need the Bible to back it up.
    But scripture is saying this same thing.

    What is your goal here?
    Do you deny that Truth is the light onto the Reality of sanity for no reason at all???

    Are you Gay?
    Do you just defend Gay rights as a fine thing that hurt no one when advertised widely as sexual promiscuity?
    What?

    Why all the effort to attack Christians here???
     
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    What he said makes sense.
    Paul was writing letters to the other church leaders.
    They were collected in 382AD by the Christians and made part of the NT.
     
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    You are telling me the guy who claimed to have a personal visitation from God and to continually be receiving revelations from said deity didn't intend to have his sayings written down and become part of the scripture?
     
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    Jesus taught that the worse things possible would happen to men who hurt children.

    Homosexuality, advertised, practiced, discussed, and promoted does just that.
    As kids grow up, they learn that masturbation is fine and natural, to be done with their fellow friends openly, and used even instead of marriage with a girl.
    Then, illegitimate babies appear on the millions every year.
    They suffer intense child abuse.
     
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    "Why would I worship and love a "God" who ordered infanticide?"

    because his name is jealous and like a jealous ex boyfriend, he will punish you for eternity if you don't
     
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    CD, you are a deeply troubled man. I could ask you to seek psychotherapy....but even if you agreed to go....

    a few sessions in, maybe one, you would jump, scream at the therapist that he was "a gay" and "trying to promote evil lustful women to try to seduce me, so that they could spawn a bastard child!!!!!!!"...and run out of the office.

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    Where is C.S. Lewis when you want him?

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    Lots of people have a "personal relationship" with Christ.
    The Book of Acts was written by Dr. Luke.
    He explained about what happened to Paul.
    He explained most everything that Paul would later confirm with his letters, too.

    Gays want to discredit Paul because he clearly says that Gayness hurts people, and is evil.
    Why can't your Gays see the damage they do with the sexual promiscuity they help produce in the Culture??
     
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    No answers to my question...?
    You KNOW the statistical Facts about the enormous abuse the fatherless millions of Kids suffer.
    But you will not stop promoting sexual immorality because your little head does all your thinking here.
     
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    You are equating the mass slaughter of cows to prevent disease with the mass slaughter of BABIES?! You do realise that we kill the cows not to prevent jimmy from sticking his dick in one and thus infecting everyone else but because some of us like to have something called BEEF once in awhile.

    This same kind of pseudo-myth was used to explain how AIDS was spread. It's so ignorant.
     
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    That same god threatens you, too, if you will not stop the sexual immorality which His Natural Laws prohibit.

    Reality demands that you act sensible within the bounds of Truth, or extinction will eliminate you and your genetic basis.
     
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    That's simply false. Not only is a teaching of divorce but it's also speaking about three groups of people who should not get married.

    Why don't you explain what those three groups are for me.
     
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    Reality is jealous of Fantasy Worlds which people construct and invent instead of facing Reality.
    They fall and disappear in time, as a consequence.
     
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    Sexual promiscuity is a disease which teenagers must fight against as hormones encourage irresponsible sexual activity.
    Jews taught their kids to get married afyer age 13, if they wanted to be sexually active.

    Pagans around them taught that sexual promiscuity was fine, and infected the Jewish kids with this disease.

    Extermination of the disease carriers was all that was happening.
    Muslim are now preparing the same thing for the whole West.
     
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    Personal relationship =/= visitation
     

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