Why would the Dems IMPEACH?

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WHY WOULD THE DEMS IMEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP?

  1. They actually thought he had done something seriously wrong

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  2. THEY KNEW THAT HE WAS UNBEATABLE ON 2020 SO IT WAS THEIR ONLY OPTION!

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  3. I am still scratching my head over why they would do that????

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  1. AlifQadr

    AlifQadr Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG] OMG!:icon_jawdrop::roflol:
     
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    Here is a peculiar thing, after Nancy Pelosi and The House Dems announced his impeachment, President Donald John Trump, did exactly what lines 11 to 14 states by issuing a Presidential Executive Order banning college students from practicing their First Amendment right, by supporting and practicing BDS. I find it very odd and additionally peculiar that Mrs. Pelosi did not make this an issue, right after he, President Donald John Trump, issued said Executive Order, so I have to agree that this is tantamount to sour grapes for the Clinton impeachment AND possibly the loss of the 2016 election. My question is, can the American people, or some of the American people, bring charges against The U.S. Congress AND the POTUS for violation and disregarding one or more of the first 10 Amendments of the Constitution for the United States of America?
     
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    Senators do not get to ask questions verbally, no chance to grandstand.

    They must write their questions out and send them to the Chief Justice, who asks all the questions.

    There will be precise concentration on law rather than politics, and hearsay will be quickly rendered down in the can.
     
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    There are probably many reasons. Political pressure, personal belief, locked into rage and anger. To me it is general theatrics and the collective pressure to maintain a self righteous posture. But they have nothing really other than exaggerations and conjecture. Trump is neither corrupt nor a threat to our nation. In fact, he has strengthened our borders, supported law enforcement in general, strengthened our military, strengthened alliances, strengthened our place among the nations, strengthened our economy, and so forth. They hate him because he refuses to be cowed by political correctness, and mostly because his tweets have taken the narrative away from the left wing media, thus greatly diminishing their hold over the people. So when they say that Trump is a threat to the nation, what they really mean is that he is a threat to the left wing monolithic influence. It is crumbling before their eyes, causing them fear and anger.
     
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    I don't necessarily disagree with you, but who knows what went through the minds of Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, and the rest of the big-wig Democrat Party leadership as they proceeded farther and deeper toward next year's elections...?

    In many of the same ways that they tried to leverage their bought-and-paid-for 'Steele Dossier' and their laughably inadequate 'assassination attempt' on Brett Kavanaugh, they hurriedly seized on the idea of attacking Trump for digging into Ukrainian corruption and Joe Biden -- which had the nasty revelations involving ol' Joe's kid, Hunter, tied into it. Joe, the big 'front-runner' had made things infinitely worse by shooting his mouth off, for all the world to see --
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html .

    THAT is where the 'quid pro quo' actually was -- and Joe's kid being given a $50,000/month job to sit on the board of a Ukrainian energy company, Burisma, just made it look even more like what it WAS -- rotten corruption, from top to bottom!

    So, the Democrats threw together this 'strategy' that really went nowhere (except with the Party 'faithful') and eventually just made them look like incompetent, giddy idiots in pursuit of an 'impeachment'. They structured their 'Kangaroo Court' in the House to suit themselves, made up their own rules, allowed only witnesses and discussion items that they approved, and, ultimately, came up with these two impeachment 'articles' that are baffling in their obvious FUTILITY. Hell, they don't even enumerate any instances of "bribers", "high crimes", or "misdemeanors".

    Surely they could have come up with something that would gain more traction in the Senate than THIS crap:
    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/Articles of Impeachment.pdf .:roflol:
     
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    A digging they are about, first it was Russia, then when that collapsed it is Ukraine which should tell everyone who is paying attention that there is no "teeth" to the allegations.
    You hit the nail on the head with this:

    "So, the Democrats threw together this 'strategy' that really went nowhere (except with the Party 'faithful') and eventually just made them look like incompetent, giddy idiots in pursuit of an 'impeachment'. They structured their 'Kangaroo Court' in the House to suit themselves, made up their own rules, allowed only witnesses and discussion items that they approved, and, ultimately, came up with these two impeachment 'articles' that are baffling in their obvious FUTILITY. Hell, they don't even enumerate any instances of "bribers", "high crimes", or "misdemeanors"."
    In any court of law, charges of bribery, misdemeanors and other "high crimes" need evidence to substantiate and bolster the charges, it looks like this particular "process" is dead in the water.
     
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    Democrats only had to show evidence the crime happened, they did that, would be nice to hear from the other witnesses, but Trump is preventing that, like a guilty person would
     
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    Democrats did not demonstrate a crime occurred, they show some potential for criminality. It essentially boils down to Trump's intent, which they did not prove.

    Guilty people like the Bidens and the DNC operative?
     
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    *LOL*

    This is rather amusing. The facts establishing not only the basis for an impeachment but also a number of crimes are right in front of your face, yet you deny their existence, and loudly and without any basis claim that the "Bidens" are magically "guilty".

    Wow. ****ing amazing.
     
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    Trump confessed on video what the intent of the call was, it's over, Trump has been impeached

    if you really want more facts, demand republicans in the Senate force witnesses on Trump's staff to testify at trial

    but we all know that the right is not looking for the Truth, they just want to shove this under the rug as the truth doesn't look good for Dirty Donald
     
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    The professional politicians Impeached because they know 2020 is Trump's.

    Their followers truly think Trump is a criminal, even if he hasn't broken any laws. In precisely the same way they think gun owners are just future spree killers and conservatives are closet racists. This is why they don't worry about things like proof and due process. We're all just criminals protected by the system, from their perspective.
     
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    Too bad that video of which you speak was not entered into evidence..
     
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    I just got sent something interesting.

    FACT-CHECK: Can The Supreme Court Extend Trump’s Term By 3 Years If He’s Acquitted In The Senate?
    That would more than likely cause the Democrat party to implode and lose any chance of ever winning another election.

    Hopefully, it works out better for Trump than it did for Nixon.

     
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    They had their turn...but blew it. Your side is done now.
     
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    I just got sent something very, very interesting!

    Supreme Court Can Extend Trump’s Term By Up To 3 Years If He’s Acquitted In The Senate
    https://dailyworldupdate.us/supreme...bE_audvhffoqH57Do3nfqcTh5Q8LbRmtGqUX6a12yKzFo
    (It is labelled satire though....... but I wonder how much truth is in it????)

    Sometimes Satire is done to make millions of people aware of information that could actually turn out to be quite useful?????
     
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    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/daily-world-update/

    "Daily World Update is a fake news site promoting false information."

    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    You could be right... it says Satire... but sometimes Satire is used as a legal way to avoid getting sued in order to be free to write what somebody thinks might actually be useful????

     
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    I would STRONGLY suggest you - hell, everyone - click the links in your "article" before getting your hopes up... :roll:
     
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    According to the site itself:

    Everything on this website is fiction. It is not a lie and it is not fake news because it is not real. If you believe that it is real, you should have your head examined. Any similarities between this site’s pure fantasy and actual people, places, and events are purely coincidental and all images should be considered altered and satirical.
     
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    This was not a strategy to "beat Trump". Even if Trump was convicted by the Senate, it's not a given that they would also choose to strip him of his ability to hold office again so he could have just run again in 2020. Pence could have even chosen him as his Vice President and then resigned to get Trump back into the hotseat, and then Trump could have chosen Pence as his new VP to restore the status quo. It does not help the Democrats at the voting booths. It's not like Trump supporters are going to go "Aww man, Pence in president now? Welp, guess I'm votin Democrat".

    Lets face it, his supporters would reelect him even if he was removed. They didn't care that he was a corrupt dishonest **** the first time, they're not going to care what he does no matter what.
     
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    Congressional leadership fiercely resisted impeachment until the empirical evidence and consistent testimony of impressive, career public servants made not initiating the Constitutional process a blatant abdication of responsibility.

    Obviously, given the hyper-partisan fix in the trumped Senate, they were not deluding themselves that their initiative would be a prelude to his removal.

    The value in the procedure is the exposure of truth for the American public, even as the desperate efforts to hide that truth by contriving diversions and gagging Trump intimates in the know persist.

    How much will be revealed?

    How much can be kept hidden?
     
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    That's a disclaimer desperately needed by Fox News, Breitbart, the Gateway Pundit and OAN.
     
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    True...... and I think that part of the article that is false is the idea that back during the Nixon administration the GOP came up with a plan to punish the Dems in the event that Nixon was impeached........ in actuality........... his being impeached depended on his sending aid to Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir...... He was threatened with impeachment if he sent her aid...... .he did it anyway..... and sure enough....... he was impeached. The followers of Robert Thomas Malthus have a lot of support in both the GOP as well as in the Democratic Party.

    If Nixon had NOT sent aid to P. M. Golda Meir.... he might NOT have. been impeached?????!!!
     
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