Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

Plus, it doesn't show drug flow ONLY via ports of entry does it?

 

So why continue to allow them across an open border?

When we deport a visa overstay, the only way back in is across the open border. The guy in San Francisco who killed Kate Steinle was deported and came back 5 times, the guy in Nevada or Utah who killed Sheriff's Deputies was deported 8 times and came back. The wall cuts off the route for deportees to return. Then there's the cost of doing nothing.........

 

How is it not a justification just because you don't agree with the justification? Is "justification" not subjective?

Name one single "RACIST" claim. If you are even remotely capable that is.

Do you know how walls work? If you had a 30 foot wall surrounding your house, do you think that it might make it SLIGHTLY more difficult for you to enter your house? Do you want to explain how you would breach it with ease? And how does any of this "defeat the legislative branch of our government?"

How are the Democrats not EQUALLY shutting down the government? How are they not holding Americans hostage in order to not allow Trump to get a win?

 

Deny access to who?

 

hahaha.
People can use the same methods and paths drugs do.
And who cares how old it is. There's a plethora of routes that can be taken and they can always change.

Now, you going to answer? Or continue with deflection and dodging?

 

You have an extremely difficult time reading the posts you respond to.
On purpose, or just obtuse in general?

 

With how much money for border security?

The rape of woman and children is far more serious.

 

Not everyone who crosses the border is the same! Are you not aware of this? Therefore your ridiculous question, "would Jesus deny access" is insufficient without saying who you are actually talking about!

 

He's definitely stupid, but how do we know he's a traitor? And how do we know that he thinks that other races are inferior or treated differently? (The ACTUAL definition of "racist!")

 

No, rape is a crime.

And, if you were to care about reducing that crime in the US, you would be working on that problem - ensuring there is enough money and staffing to process rape kits, investigate incidents, etc.

 

Asked and answered.

For example, you cut off my post!!

 

- a justification includes stuff like plans, an indication of design/scope, an analysis of what the likely outcome will be, etc. That doesn't exist in this case. For example, you can not tell me how many fewer people will run across the southern border.

- Trump is holding the American people hostage. He demands that the legislative branch of our government cave to his demands or he will continue to punish the hostages.

Dems are NOT doing that. They are demanding that our legislative prrocess be followed as intended by our founders and the constitution they wrote.

 

Not when it's a continuation of a previous post. The subject does not change unless the new post changes the subject.

 

So women and children being systematically raped in a part of the world and desperately needing asylum, would NOT in your eyes constitute a "humanitarian crisis?" If it didn't, then why should any country accept any asylum request?

Are you working on every problem that you care about?

 

Again when you prove your assertion, I will prove mine.

 

What did I cut off that prevents you from answering?

 

You might want to go back and have a look at the post of mine that you were responding to. (see link below.) See how I ask, "does that include making it as easy as possible for illegal aliens to enter the country?" So using your rule in the above quote, surely it is fair to say that the subject was "illegal aliens." So, no SPECIFIC type of alien, right? How can you NOT see the need for clarifying who you are talking about in your Jesus question? http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-lets-find-out.548832/page-50#post-1070133099

 

You can go back and read the post from me that you cut if you want.

No big deal, but I'm not interested in games.

If you come up with something interesting I may respond again sometime.

 

I figured. Dodge was the answer.
Fine by me.

 

I did go back and yes, illegal aliens was the topic.
Do you think Jesus actually cares about man made borders? Isn't he accepting to all who are needy?

 

Ha ha

if you can’t tell by his relationship to putin, his willingness to diss all out allies and get out of NATO, I guess you’re not as observant as we thought. Racist ? You have to ask ?

 

I don't believe there is any question about what Jesus would focus on in these immigration situations. His care for those of the wrong social/political/cultural/legal background was focused on the wellbeing of the individual.

Today, we see moves to deny asylum!! We see government taking children away from families - and still being either unable or unwilling to ever reunite those families. We see programs sold on the grounds that they do harm to those of the wrong social/political/cultural/legal background.

We CAN have better immigration control. But, its not going to come from the posture of hate promoted by the president today.

 

You're confused here.

This administration is AGAINST asylum.

 

Jesus gave aid without questioning legal or cultural status.

NO human is "illegal". A person may do something that is illegal, but a person isn't illegal. So, your comments about "what type of person" are off base.

Plus, rememberr that Democrats are ready to do far more about our immigration issues that Trump has ever proposed.

 

Do you acknowledge that this stuff COULD possibly exist but has just not been made public? Are you saying that REASONS for the wall have not been formed?

How in the hell could this possibly be known? You think that I have a crystal ball?

Considering that the Democrats have the ability to end the shutdown too, how are they not equally holding the American people hostage?

Part of the process is that the government is shut down unless spending can be agreed on. What if Clinton was president and a natural disaster stuck a part of the country. Emergency funding is required beyond what is normally allocated, but Republicans don't agree on the spending. The government shut down. Would you say that Clinton is "holding the American people hostage in order to defeat the legislative branch of our government?" Would you say that Republican's are "demanding that our legislative process be followed as intended by our founders and the constitution they wrote?" Yeah, I don't think so some how!