Why you can't have an honest or civil conversation with most racists

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  1. rickysdisciple

    rickysdisciple New Member

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    Those countries, by any reasonable definition, are ethno-sates--they are extremely homogeneous and conscious of race. In fact, East Asia is one of the most racist regions in the world. I think they have a right to maintain their racial homogeneity and are under no obligation to accept immigrants.

    It depends on how you define conspiracy. There is a small group of people who are vastly more powerful, by any metric, than any other single group (it's not even close), they lean liberal, at least culturally (80% are liberals), and they have a strong fear of nationalism and support diversity/multiculturalism more than any other group (yet they oppose it in Israel)--these are facts. If this were true of anyone else, people would be talking about this daily (in fact, they call them "white people"), but Jewish intelligence and organization have overcome the sensibilities of the general population, as they usually do. The Jews are, in fact, the smartest race, by far, and they easily climb the ladder in every society in which they live. As a result, it's relatively easy for them to dominate a society in relatively short order.

    It doesn't mean they are actively trying to screw non-Jews, but they have coherent beliefs that affect the lives of others.
     
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    rickysdisciple New Member

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    Sure, most of them are clowns, but trying to use that as an argument against the validity of national socialism, as an effective means of organizing society, is a weak argument (China is doing it right now, very effectively). If you objectively compare Nazi Germany to America in the same period of time, Nazi Germany was absolutely superior, by most measures. You should read about the economic and social achievements of Nazi Germany before you dismiss the ideology.
     
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    Show me a national socialist/neo-Nazi party today which has political power. None exist, nor will they ever. Neo-Nazi parties only poll 1% at the ballot box.
     
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    And if they were 50% they would be correct? Golden Dawn is essentially Neo Nazi and they do pretty well.

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    rickysdisciple New Member

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    What's your point?
     
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    With the Greek economy in a very bad way, increasing Euroscepticism and now migrant crisis - a sensible right wing populist/national conservative party in Greece could have taken power by now. Instead, the Golden Dawn managed to get half or more of its elected members put in prison or on trial. They've polled no higher than 7% in the Hellenic parliament. Although Golden Dawn are far-right extremists with a skinhead/football hooliganism look, even they know neo-Nazism is toxic to voters. They actually deny they are Nazis or fascists. Their flag is also a Greek symbol.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/golden-dawn-leader-to-stand-trial-next-month-1425924154
     
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    Vekimekim Banned

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    Why are you quoting the WSJ for what GD think? Perhaps your error is not understanding that some people put integrity before disingenuous tactics.
     
  8. Egalitarianjay02

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    In what ways was Nazi Germany superior to America?! America had established itself as the richest most powerful nation in the world by the time of World War II. Germany was still recovering financially from World War I which is how Hitler came to power in the first place. Germany wanted a strong leader. Hitler and his propaganda machine gave them a false sense of direction. While they did become a major military power in Europe they were not equal to America which is why once we entered the war we stomped them. National Socialism as a political ideology is morally absurd and ineffective. Hitler was a madman, a genocidal maniac whose radical ideas served as the downfall of racism in the world because people were able to see what such views taken to the extreme could actually do. Many atrocities were committed before the Holocaust but as advances in communication developed oppressed minorities became more vocal which is why it would be very hard for Neo-Nazis, White Nationalists and other extremists to have their views gain political acceptance.
     
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    What is morally repugnant about a nation deciding who can enter?
     
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    There is no evidence for any Holocaust, unlike the Jewish Bolshevik mass-murders.
     
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    Discriminating against people is wrong. How would you feel if you were treated unfairly?

    That is offensive to people who actually experienced the Holocaust. That's like saying that American slavery didn't happen or there was no genocide against the Native Americans.

    Why are you trying to deny history?

    [video=youtube;8USx-Eqmdc8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8USx-Eqmdc8[/video]

    [video=youtube;RJfURCLVJxc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJfURCLVJxc[/video]
     
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    Nobody experienced any Holocaust. It is all lies.

    Nobody is going to watch these long videos of lying testimony.
     
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    @ Vekimekim

    You evidently have no idea about/experience with politics. Good luck putting a leaflet with your silly anti-Semitic avatar and "Jewish Bolshevik mass-murders" through someone's door. It would be put in the bin, or used as toilet paper. You wouldn't even get 10 votes in a local council seat.

    How the BNP some years back had an electoral breakthrough was by addressing local issues, i.e. designing leaflets about bin collections not being collected on time, addressing housing concerns (e.g. immigrants/recent arrivals being council housed before English people who have lived in an area all their lives), mess left by Gypsy's on caravan-sites, the dangers of pot-holes in the roads etc. This is what the Front Nationale in France is doing and why they are polling so well. You cannot just have a hardline anti-immigration message, to be successful you have to combine this with local everyday issues affecting normal people. The BNP collapsed because it did not continue with this sensible moderate political approach - the party was infiltrated by people like yourself (Marxists, state-agents etc) who are obsessed with Jews, Holocaust denial and other weirdness because they know it will not get votes. At one point Griffin had kicked all those idiots out and they even had an elected Jewish councillor. They worked their way back though into the party. Now note because the BNP is now almost dead the infiltrators have moved onto UKIP. Note is it no coincidence these people all did their damage right before the 2015 general election.

    General Election 2015: Ukip candidate Jack Sen suspended over 'anti-Semitic' tweets
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...pended-over-anti-semitic-tweets-10220370.html
     
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    Jews do not endorse or abet minority crime. Get your head out of your ass.
     
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    I'm not trying to get votes I'm posting on the Internet. *facepalm*

    Hacker Weev hijacked 29,000 printers to spew anti-Semitic flyers across US colleges

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    So what were they doing in the concentration camps with the Jews? Just hanging out?



    I'm sure that someone will watch them. They are there as a counter to your lies.
     
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    How would I know? At least they weren't being murdered and raped like you would expect from lying Semites.
     
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    Egalitarianjay02 Banned

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    Oh Really?

    CNN.com - Silence lifted: The untold stories of rape during the Holocaust

    They were murdered, raped, beaten, tortured, used as test subjects for experiments. All of that happened. There is no reason to doubt that it happened.
     
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    Yes, Weev, who probably works for the Southern Poverty Law Center or the FBI. He's not a genuine nationalist but a clear infiltrator who wants to make nationalism appear as violent, offensive and anti-Semitic as possible. That's what the whole DailyStormer circus is about.

    What does printing 29,000 leaflets which will offend 99.99% people achieve for nationalism? It just turns more people away from adopting an anti-immigrant stance because they now associate this with white supremacy and holocaust denial. Note that leaflet specifically mentions Jews and anti-immigration to turn people away from the latter because it is demonised.

    I've long suspected you were an infiltrator when I first encountered you online 3 years back. I feel sorry for egalitarianjay who thinks you're a real 'neo-nazi'.
     
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    Why is it wrong to block blacks from entering a country?
     
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    Because it's evil. Why do yo think it is right?
     
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    I am just countering his arguments since he seems to want to debate the topic.

    Yes, they do and worse. In a recent discussion I showed a racist that people in her movement commonly advocate sterilization and genocide as a solution for dealing with non-Whites. I believe there is no limit to the moral depravity of many racists. Mikemikev is no exception.
     
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    Btw, I have definite proof Mikemikev is an infiltrator. He's probably works for Hope not Hate. All this info to be published in time. :cool:Out of sheer insecurity he tried to throw those accusations at me on Nordisk.

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    Are you completely unfamiliar with German economic history? Hitler wiped out unemployment by about 1936, among many other economic accomplishments, but unemployment was still a huge problem in America at that time. It is undisputed that Nazi Germany had a thriving economy before the war, and they fared quite well afterward, considering the fact that they were recovering from a horrendous war and fighting a two-front war against much larger opponents. Germany would have beaten the hell out of America in a heads up fight were the circumstances different. Study the period more closely before you give us too much credit. America had huge advantages going into that war.

    You cannot compare America to Germany in absolute terms. Pound for pound, Germany was the superior country.

    Yes, the Jews did not fare well, obviously, but that is totally irrelevant to the argument.

    Unfortunately, Hitler's insanity in later years probably set genetics back 60 years and ruined our ability to think clearly about races. Luckily, people in the non-western world are highly aware of racial differences, and places like China do not have the stupidity of the left to prevent them from studying those differences. Nationalism will return, and people will become racially conscious again--you can't silence the truth forever.
     
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    So countries have to allow immigration, no matter what?

    I want to know what the diversity quota for China should be when you become dictator.

    Just so I understand your methodology.
     

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