Wild new plan to eradicate smoking in Australia entirely

I am aware. The war on tobacco was just a way to raid the corporate treasuries of successful businesses. The democrats were so successful in that payout they have been trying to do it to others ever since.

 

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Yep!
Feel free to do with it whatever you wish

Just if that leads to an adverse health outcome - why should I have to pay for your bad health decisions?

 

:Roll:

if “corporate treasuries of successful businessmen” means pushing poison then why not make all “illegal” drugs legal?

 

Meh! Tobacco industries can afford it

 

I'm not talking about the tobacco industry.

 

I've been saying the same thing about abortion.

I feel you.

 

Our indigenous people smoke : a LOT. Mostly because it dates back to when that was thier pay for working ( yeah our history is disgusting in this area)
An indigenous healthcare worker told of going to a Metro hospital clinic and looking around the waiting room and what struck her was all those Elderly people with intact legs and feet.

work in a vascular clinic - you will be convinced of the correlation in under a week

 

That’s is what the thread is about - smoking in Australia

 

Oh! That “right”

see we believe that with great rights come great responsibilities

Result - well just look at the comparative firearm mortality in the two countries






Now THIS stat is interesting



https://theconversation.com/shoot-to-kill-the-use-of-lethal-force-by-police-in-australia-34578

Have you ever thought that fewer firearms in the community means fewer times the police have to resort to using a firearm themselves?

 

I don't care about your stats, graphs or charts. I am glad I have my 2nd Amendment rights and vote accordingly. I don't care about communities. I moved to a rural area to get away from communities. I watched the anarchy in New Orleans on TV during Katrina and later after Katrina was in the New Orleans/Gulfport area for work related reasons. On the Gulf Coast after Katrina, it looked like an atomic bomb had gone of. So recalling that event and watching recent anarchy in the US and liberal demands to abolish police and enable anarchy/mob rule I will retain my firearms. I know there could come a time I will be glad to own what liberals call an assault rife. Then again maybe not. But better to have an AR-15 type rifle (I actually prefer the AK-47) and not need it than need one and not have it. If any disaster like Katrina ever happens where you live, feel free to report unarmed to your Australian equivalent of the Superdome.

 

Try reading it again. It was on topic. You just misread it or didn't understand it.

 

1988 must have seen that those restrictions coming in 8 years and started going down in preparation.

 

I am a former smoker and I never regret giving them up. I have wished that all cigarettes were thrown in the ocean so I couldn't get a hold of them. And I didn't read all the posts. Did anyone mention where "free" healthcare dollars come from?

 

I'd say wait until China decides it wants Australia but even the Japanese didn't want it.

 

Sounds like a great move in Oz, since the average taxpayer also foots the bill for the health issues associated with smoking.

By the way, didn't the US government outlaw cocaine and other drugs. Shouldn't that be up to the individual!?

 

My dad served in New Guinea. The Aussies and the Allies just opened up a can of whoop ass on them.

 

Apparently, it was a great country for American R&R during WWII.

 

The reality of actual budget numbers or the reality of nation debt that is something like 27 Trillion is never mentioned.

 

Are your indigenous people capable of making a personal decision to smoke or not smoke? Or does the white man have to make that decision for them.

 

They can't understand what they're saying over the sound of the bulldozers plowing them out of the cities.

 

A damned good idea! I'd love to walk, sit, and dine breathing fresh air.

The difficulties with "Cold turkey" is no joke. An incentive is the right method for sure.

 

Are your children capable of making a personal decision to go to school or not go to school? Or do government and parents have to make that decision for them.

 

Good point. Is it government or drug-pushing peers who decide for the individual?

 

yep, that was from the white man giving them high carb foods and them becoming addicted, this is well known, diabetes is sadly big on reservations now

the White flour-based diet we introduced them to is the issue

the issue is our high carb diets

 

Are you blaming it on the "white man" or the "white flour"? Carbohydrate introduction (as you call it) was/is not part of the Apartheid plan and the vast majority of Africans weren't eating at Whimpy's and KFC ... and very few were invited to the brai.