Will USA Military If Ordered Fire On Americans

The government also killed innocents during Wounded Knee in 1973 and the FBI's COINTLEPRO thugs killed many people during the 1960s and 70s.

 

I fixed it. "says as much about RW Big Government Fascist Authoritarianism as did conscription armies"

 

Today's highly technological all volunteer force which mans our drones do not appear to be thinking for themselves (if you're trying to say they have a moral compass) as they slaughter innocents on demand all around the globe. Though to be fair, that immoral program has apparently caused a number of them such moral pain that they have formed a group named Know Drones which seems to be showing stirrings of conscience.

Would drone operators refuse to fire on US citizens? Stay tuned....

 

US military and civilian drone operators will certainly fire on US citizens.

They practice in 'dry run' on militia sites in the South and Pacific Northwest all the time.

 

It won't happen as you think. The platoon leader won't stand in front of his men and say "Today we are going into town to put down average hard working Americans who are protesting, if they resist, then shoot them".

It will be much more sophisticated.

Federal Law Enforcement will show up and brief about various "terrorist threats", and warn to watch out for certain behavior in the local area. That first step has been going on for years. Among other things, it plants the idea in the soldiers minds that "terrorists" are domestic. Anybody could be a terrorist.

Then as the domestic situation heats up, the "terrorist threats" will get more intense and a little more specific to include vague terms such as "white nationalists" and "Nazi's" and lone wolf actors and domestic terror cells, and the briefings will be more tailored to domestic terrorism.

When people in a town actually protest in some way that the feds really don't like, law enforcement will deal with it first, not local LE but federal out of state LE like the FBI ATF etc. They will be as brutal as they can get away with.

At that point, if the LE can't handle the situation (which they probably created), and they call in the military but not locally stationed military. The military will not be briefed that "People in town were protesting, cops went in and over reacted and bullied people, and now the cops are in trouble, so you troops go in and shoot the townspeople".

The military will be told that LE went in to ensure a safe protest but the protest was infiltrated and taken over by a violent "white nationalist" cell, cops were killed, the towns people are in danger, the military needs to go into this and save the cops and the town and put down the terrorists.

The tv news will be muddy, many press will be doing their usual regurgitation of the false narrative the feds feed them. The feds story will be believable to the troops.

And the troops will go in and shoot Americans because they were given bad intel.

 

White Nationalists, behave like normal Americans, you will be just fine.

 

Why would anyone attack the military?

 

ANTIFA



ISIS

This is acting normal?

 

That was the hypothetical I replied to.

 

Why would the military attack anyone?

 

JakeStarkey said: White Nationalists, behave like normal Americans, you will be just fine.

Another of your fallacy of false equivalencies. You are good at them.

You are not an American-born or English-speaking US citizen, are you? You obviously have trouble with modals and verbals.

 

How many foreigners are on this Board pretending to be Americans?

 

I'm not the one using incidents from 50 years ago to make a point, oblivious to the fact that things change.

 

You're just too blindly funny.

 

During a natural disaster doesn't equate to protecting politicians from citizens.

 

Whose talking about shooting protesters? I'm talking about protecting politicians from the citizens.

 

Why do you think drone operators can't think for themselves? Why do you think their officers are just robots who will kill anyone in which they are ordered to do? Why do you think everyone in the military lacks a moral compass?

 

I expect a handful. Mostly those who are anti-military, anti-US. Anyone who undermines the integrity of the United States government and the millions of Americans who work to both protect and defend our Constitution is suspect as being a foreign actor.

 

I have never made that allegation, and I do not think the way you seem to think I do.

I judge the moral course, using the moral compass, by actions only. Not by words, not by intentions. By results.

And what I saw in Vietnam, and then now today, the results are pretty damn sad.

I think drone operators can think for themselves, and I'll bet every one of them wants to be doing the right thing in his daily work.

I worry about the policy and those who make it, more than the men who do it.

 

I would certainly hope they aren't that stupid.

Shooting 50 or 100 college kids here and there wouldn't tip it off, but the moment the US government starts killing 1000's of Americans in military operations with in its own borders, you will see a massive uprising begin, and there are far more civilians, ex-vets,Current service members, etc that would stand against that type of **** than there is active or reserve personnel in the armed forces.

Millions of Americans would die, and those who turned their weapons against the masses will be retaliated against(the politicians would catch the brunt of it). It's not something any intelligent man would do against his own country. A country armed to the teeth, and with thousands of ways to make IED's from everything at grocery stores to goodwills.

Not a pretty site it will be. That's not even mentioning all of the mil-spec gear the uprising would Receive from defecting troops.

 

Capitalism, there will be no massive American uprising.

 

Great. BTW, Vietnam was 50 years and 10 Presidential administrations ago. George Santayana's comment about history is correct, but not every person thinks our military leadership accepts it. That's why certain people keep bringing up comments made 50-60 years ago when they fear monger about our 21st Century military.

 

Because most people benefit from the long-term benefits of capitalism as opposed to short-term benefits of socialism.

 

Almost there.

democratic countries can be socialist or capitalist

You are mistaking communism for socialism: they are not the same.

 

JakeStarkey said: White Nationalists, behave like normal Americans, you will be just fine.
Another of your fallacy of false equivalencies. You are good at them.

You are not an American-born or English-speaking US citizen, are you? You obviously have trouble with modals and verbals.

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