Wisconsin Voter ID Law Struck Down

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  1. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

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    Where are the recordings or emails from these people saying these things? So and so who thought he heard so and so say so and so, doesn't count...sorry=) Although I have seen quotes from Democrats saying Voter ID is racist, yet they have no facts to back it up. Our VP says its based on hatred, which you might as well say its racist. But the only thing racist about it is assuming black people are incapable of doing what any poor equivalent white person can apparently accomplish.
     
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    You are the only one who believes that last sentence.
     
  3. dnsmith

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    The way we solved the problem in Alabama is easy. Each local party office provided transportation and paid for IDs of anyone who could not afford them. Yet the left wing fanatics still whine and cry like babies. As a moderate democrat, I don't buy that it is only a GOP issue wanting to stop Democrat voters. Voter ID just gives the left wing idiots something to cry about.
     
  4. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    I.D.'s are used all the time in many different applications.

    This activist judge is obviously following the party line.
     
  5. goober

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    They weren't secret recordings
    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...s/early-voting-curbs-called-power-play/nTFDy/
     
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    pocket aces Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Since when? I lived in Wisconsin for 38 years and always had to pay for my ID's.
     
  7. Surfer Joe

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    That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
    The problem is at the coal face when they show up to vote and some poll worker tells them that they got the "wrong" type of ID, or not enough IDs.
    It happened to college students trying to vote in Texas and being told that their student IDs and driver licences were not the correct IDs.
    It happened in Florida in front of me while waiting to vote in Dade county. Some redneck poll worker kept harrassing the blacks trying to vote by asking them for all sorts of IDs and then telling them that their ID was not the correct one.
    So stuff the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about voter IDs and how easy it is to vote.
    It's a lie because the people manning the voting stations are the ones who get to decide who is allowed to vote.

    I have no problem with people being given a national ID card for voting from the government after they have been registered, but then there can be no one at the polling stations to decide who gets to vote or not.
     
  8. RP12

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    I quoted the article... If you have an issue with that take it up with the author.

    - - - Updated - - -

    If you have an issue with the quote from the article take it up with the author ~
     
  9. Pred

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    Oh, you mean Charlie Christ the DEMOCRAT?? And the only telling quote, which was another he said she said, mentioned early voting hurts Republicans and it DOES. That has NOTHING to do with race. It has everything to do with Democrats LYING and changing what their promises are, so if you get them to vote early, you can easily change stances and if something bad happens to you, you don't have to care, because you already got the votes. Also, since Liberals vote to the party only without thinking or analyzing, since they don't have many brain cells, hehe, and Republicans actually think a little, it makes sense to sucker in all those votes as early as you can.

    Dig a little deeper kiddo to understand STRATEGY. These people are not stupid. They're conniving, on both sides. Its not as obvious as liberals want you to believe.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i have no issue with the idea of having to prove you are who you say you are, but the excess hurdles some of these state measures are enacting are straight up jim crow tactics.

    voting should be made as easy as possible and the right wing is doing anything they can to prevent democratic voters from voting.
     
  11. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Arent you the least bit angry at the obvious attempt by the government to prevent the poor and under privileged the opportunity to enjoy a delicious hoppy beverage?

    Heck, the police wont even allow poor under privileged people to even walk on the street without Identification. This obviously racist policy is designed to prevent people of color from even leaving their homes. Demanding Identification from People on the Street Its like the government wants to keep people locked up in a getto, like warsaw in 1943.

    Why is the government so darn racist?
     
  12. RedWolf

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    Personally I think id should be enough. No reason for it to be more complicated then that.
     
  13. BestViewedWithCable

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    Thats completely false.

    Acorn registered Mickey Mouse like 200 times.
     
  14. Surfer Joe

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    LMAO...Translation= Caught pushing dishonest crap again...must deflect.
     
  15. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How long are you people going to blame your electoral failures on the discredited notion of voter fraud?
    Stop parroting right-wing paranoia as if it had anything to do with reality.
     
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    "Wisconsin residents can get a free state ID from a Department of Motor Vehicles by presenting documents such as a certified birth certificate, passport or Social Security card. Each document must be unexpired, and the person's name must be spelled identically on each document."

    Its right from the OP article. How the (*)(*)(*)(*) is a quote from the OP's article deflecting?
     
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    Seems like the law was struck down not because the idea of voter ID is wrong, but because certain legitimate citizens couldnt get the ID. Which I agree is an issue. I am all for voter IDs and universal IDs in general, but it has to be done right.
     
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    People that had their names spelled wrong is a reason to not pass a bill?
     
  19. REPUBLICRAT

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    Virtually nobody really believes a stolen election is a very real possibility. Even those who will claim otherwise for political reasons, know it's virtually a non-issue. I thank Mr. Yelton in NC for discussing what it's really about. Hurting democrats. Sort of a plan to steal elections ironically.


    "GOP executive committee member Don Yelton dispensed with the common yarn that the voter ID push is because of genuine “voter fraud,” a circumstance that is quite rare but often alleged after the stunning Republican losses in 2012.

    Many Republicans say restrictions such as ones recently passed in Texas barring many married women from voting are enacted to ensure fraud at the polls is rooted out. But Yelton admits that the measures are actually conceived to weight the vote unfairly.

    Yelton sat down with TDS‘ Aasif Mandvi to talk about voter suppression in North Carolina, bizarrely even countering Mandvi’s assertion that Yelton isn’t a racist with an admission he has been “called a bigot.” The interview only gets more unbelievable from there, with Yelton claiming a racially controversial Obamacare witch doctor picture posted to his Facebook page only mocked Obama’s “white half.”

    Gawker summarizes the pre-voter ID segment with a series of questionable admissions from the GOP exec, explaining:

    “Yelton attempted to explain away the charges of racism — always a good idea — by: 1. Insisting that one of his best friends is black; 2. claiming that the photo of Obama dressed as a witch doctor that he shared on his Facebook page was making fun of his ‘white half;’ recalling how, when he was young, black people were called ‘negras;’ and bemoaning the fact that black people can use the word ‘n*gger’ but he can’t.”

    Mandvi responds:

    “You know that we can hear you, right?”

    Voters in North Carolina are not pleased with the comments made by the GOP representative, and one comments on a local piece about the admissions of voter suppression and calling for further query:

    “The paper should be doing a hard news story about the racist statements made by Don [Yelton.] Does he stand by these statements? If so, what he said is very serious and merits serious news coverage.”

    Another says:

    “At last, someone with the GOP has admitted the new voting restrictions are NOT about fraud, but suppressing the Democratic vote. Thank you, Mr. Yelton for finally telling the truth.”

    Finally, Don Yelton says that the voter fraud outrage is ginned up to “kick Democrats in the butt,” adding that if the laws “hurt a bunch of lazy blacks, so be it.”

    http://www.inquisitr.com/1005250/nc...admits-voter-id-laws-intend-to-suppress-vote/
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    The same ID's work for all. I traded a guitar yesterday at Guitar Center. By law I had to provided a photo ID to conduct the transaction just as in a pawnshop. Are the poor having their economic activity suppressed because it requires a photo ID? Are they being discriminated against?
     
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    But JUST as easily obtained. If they CHOOSE not to get a proper ID OH WELL. The Constitution does not require them to be coddled. If having to show an ID to purchase a firearm does not suppress the right to keep and bear an arm then having to show one to vote does not suppress that so-called right.
     
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    Deliberate lie. And prove that Democrats are mostly required more to show an ID or to have one at all. This should be good.

    Cases have been cited over and over and what ID in states that do not require them? There is NO PROBLEM in obtaining ID's. Time for you to prove all these people being denied a vote because they have no ID.

    Serves the purpose of insuring the integrity of the election and prevents the disfranchisement of legal voters, helps insure the poll worker marks off the correct voter and speeds up the voting process. Why is it a "barrier" for Democrats and not for Republicans, both have to meet the same requirements.

    And this will help to eliminate the need to purge the rolls although you present no evidence to support your claims. Yes most criminals tend to be Democrat and the purging mostly goes after criminals, but Democrats and Republicans tend to die at the same rate last I heard.
     
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    Nope by law you have to have the ID on you and if the establishment sells to you and an agent is standing and ask if to see your ID and you don't have it the store can get fined.


    But we are talking "under the law" which would be discriminatory if having to show an ID was actually discriminatory.

    Again under the law, AND if a landlord requires an ID then by using the Democrat logic that would be housing discrimination which of course it is not.

    The point being to get a marriage license requires an ID and under the Democrat logic that would be unequal treatment and the Republicans trying to prevent the poor and blacks from marriage which of course is utter nonsense.

    Not from a licensed dealer because the law requires a background check and an ID and to get a concealed carry permit requires an ID, is the right to keep and bear arms for the poor and blacks being suppressed?

    But you local government shelter can require an ID can't they and it doesn't present a case of unequal treatment under the law does it?

    Most do and by law in some places and it is not discriminatory is it?

    But Verizon and AT&T and other providers can require you to show an ID and it is not discriminatory is it?

    You have to have it on your person.

    Nope Sudafed.

    In an emergency situation but go try to get admittance without having an ID.
     
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    IOW suppressing Democrats right to keep and bear arms, rent hotel rooms, rent cars, legally purchase alcohol and tobacco products, purchase medications and on and on is OK with you?
     
  25. BestViewedWithCable

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    Im talking about reality.

    ACORN really did register Mickey Mouse to vote 200 times. See, Mickey didnt have to show ID to register....
     

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