With Detroit’s Bankruptcy, Anarchists Have Begun Project “Free Detroit”

Firstly, let me start off by saying this is a great effort and I hope they're successful. This city needs all the help it can get and by taking a theory and turning it into a reality, I think is absolutely superb and should be commended.

Now then, let's see the haters out there who're going to down talk this and say that Detroit is going to become dismal and this effort is going to fail miserably. Then, if anyone else says how Obama or Bush has made this country into a hell hole, it becomes a partisan issue, and an issue where folks are banking on the failure of this country. The reality is Detroit has been in a dismal state for a long time. Now that a lot of the public services have been cut, the individuals, of the community they're trying to build up, is taking control of their future.

This effort should be fully support, just like the Free State Project of New Hampshire. Folks want to bash both efforts but the reality is folks are trying to make their lives that much better. If they can succeed, why bank on their failure?

 

Starting an anarchist commune in the heart of the most libber city they could find was dumb. Doomed from the start. They won't be writing any rules, they will have to obey them.

 

What rules? It's essentially become a lawless land. Cops are robbing citizens, cops have turned a blind eye to crime, what laws/rules do they have to follow again?

No, the point of this is that the anarchists, in this community, will show how anarchy isn't a lawless town. They will setup rules and laws that each individual has to oblige by. If not, then I would imagine they'd have consequences, probably in the form of no longer receiving the help & support they're trying to build.

They're having to start a new, from ground zero. There isn't any more laws there, the anarchists are looking to create ones that everyone can agree on. Thus, it's making the theory become a reality.

 

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life. These suburban white kids are in for a rude awakening.

 

Vigilantes might be Detroit's only hope.

 

What's more ridiculous, the fact that the public services that were given to them through tax dollars are no longer there or free individuals providing the necessary services that ordinary folks need?

The only people who in for a rude awakening are those who don't understand anarchy.

 

Vigilantes isn't the right term I would use for this. These folks aren't purposely disobeying laws, they have no alternative. Thus, they're building up services, that folks need, in order to keep their futures bright. Sure they could move to another state and start a new, but I can tell you from experience, it's a big deal, especially if you grew up in that state. To just up and leave, that takes some serious thought into doing.

I commend them for at least trying. Until they become destructive, that's when I no longer support their effort. If all they're doing is providing services that are no longer available to the general public in their community, then I don't see what the big deal is. They should have the right to do it and if they can make it successful, hopefully folks will think differently about anarchy.

 

Vigilantism and anarchy are closely related. Both happen when public order (imposed by government) breaks down.

Detroit is more interested in maintaining solid-gold bennies to public employees (current and retired) than maintaining public order.

 

Yeah. Picture a bunch of hippie nut-jobs who don't believe in following any authority but their own sitting down and coming up with a way to remove a million tons of garbage off the streets for starters. Then watch their reaction when the only garbage truck they can get started gets 'stripped'.
That 'weed' must be pretty damned good.
"Anyone got any licorice?"

 

Wait people want to go it alone and create free markets and their own thing as in Libertarianism and so many are critical, seems to me a test of free market at its best. It should demonstrate whether or not government is needed or not.

 

Seems more like obama has reprioritized his communist minions.....

It started with ACORN vote fraud

Then they prioritized them for Occupy Wall Street

Then they "organized" their communist minions for trayvon, and riots

Then they sent them out to picket Ronald McDonald...

Now they are demanding freebees for the hell hole known as detroit.....

Detroit has 80,000 condemned homes and businesses that need to be torn down.

If any federal money goes to detroit, it should be for bulldozers.

 

"OK we've decided that we're going to 'go it alone' and show what real Anarchists/Libertarians can accomplish if we really try right? I think this meeting is over. I've got to run. If I don't get down to the welfare office today I won't get my free bus pass or the food stamps so my little ninety pound anorexic 'baby-maker' can buy food for our four kids".
Funny. There's not an Anarchist in the world who runs a business or employees any one. But they all want what the dude who is busting his hump has. Go figure.

 

So private citizens are going to buy fire houses, fire trucks and all the gear? What about policing? Are they also going to buy all the schools and school supplies? What a pipe dream.

 

Anarchism is the rule of law, a state of individual and collective enlightenment, you need only embrace it.

The pipe dream is thinking the statist paradigm is somehow any better than what these free people are creating. Anarchy is fundamentally about voluntary cooperation in pursuit of liberty. Who could think that is a bad thing?

 

Good luck to them. I can imagine anarchy might work on such a small-scale, while surrounded by a governmental entity as a safety-net. I can't imagine it becoming a global, or even national phenomenon.

 

Dude,
People aren't going to (*)(*)(*)(*) their money away and get nothing back for it. It will NEVER HAPPEN! Why would someone spend their OWN money to do all this and get NOTHING back for it? Like I said, it won't happen, it's a pipe dream of the highest order. What WILL happen if they try is that the biggest, baddest bully on the block will move in and rule the roost through REAL anarchy. It will become the wild west. Who's willing to dump in millions upon millions of dollars only to have the government come in and take everything from them? THAT WILL eventually happen if they start anything.

 

I don't understand the outrage of Detroit declaring bankruptcy. When ultra rich Republicans like Donald Trump do it (more than once) and screw workers out of their earnings, it's hailed as "good business". So, Detroit going bankrupt has to be a "good business" move. We should all do it immediately! Let's all be "good business" people!

 

Yep salvage what they can and burn and/or bury the rest. Once you have a clean lot then you can talk about improvements.

 

Once had the hilarious experience watching a dozen Anarchists try to build a very simple 'sweat lodge' on a beach. Oh Dear. They fought all day about where the fire pit would go. The fought about who had to bring the water for the hot rocks up from the beach. They fought about who's 'old lady' did or didn't have 'get naked' in the lodge. They fought about who was starting the fights. They fought about who was allowed to give the 'chant's. It went on all day. LOL In the end everyone ended up sulking in their pup tents and freezing.
That my friends will be the final ironic insult to Detroit. A bunch of 'never-wasers'/losers fighting over who gets to drive the only garbage truck into the most violent hell-hole in the city.

 

Interesting concept. But I wonder where the money will come from to maintain the system?

 

Then how do you explain charity? Morality? Self-sacrifice? These are virtues of anarchist philosophy, and enlightenment is the vessel through which they are transmitted. If we, as a society, can achieve this collective state of mind and being, what is stopping us from building a virtuous and prosperous anarchist nation?

You seem to think that anarchists are pushovers with no recourse to self-defense. I can assure you that is not the case.

 

Bankruptcy is a way to start over fresh, so it is a good thing for Detroit. Of course, if they were a big bank, they'd get bailed out right away, and the democrats and republicans would tell us the world would burn down if we didn't.

 

Not everybody believes in charity and self-sacrifice. How will they function in an anarchist society? What about those who just take and take and never give back?

Anarchism is like liberal utopia — a wonderful idea to those who believe in it, but it's not feasible, and will never happen. Just stick to getting the size of Government down. That's realistic and attainable.

 

Those sound like left-anarchists. These are voluntaryist anarchists, a much more intellectual and cooperative breed of people. I think they will do very well, that is, if the state doesn't crush them with taxes and regulations.

 

That is why we must enlighten them. That said, there is room for profit-motive in anarchist society, too. Charity and profit are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

I'm just as pragmatic as the next person, so I favor any movement in that direction. But if there are anarchists trying to create a free society, I am going to support them, everyone should.