Woman punches man in Broadway bar over MAGA-style birthday hat

I have never bashed the woman nor praised the man. I have, however, condemned her actions and justifiably so.

I think we are looking at this from totally different mindsets and never the 'twain' shall meet and I respect your right to your opinion.

 

Because they still have the ability to interpret that political action how they see fit.

And then they get angry, and then they want the person wearing the hat to hurt, so they respond (not necessarily in a physical way).

And so, then the person wearing the hat get's angry, and wants the other person to hurt, etc. Until it escalates to a point where one of them doesn't care about going to jail, or if the other person has a gun, or anything other than making the other person hurt.

That is what I would like us, as a country, to try and avoid.

So, how would you go about making that happening? Keeping in mind our current rights and freedoms, and the fact that many people (at least on this message board), regard their freedoms as sancrosect.

Would you do anything at all?

 

Humans must understand that many of those Leftists that are not Terrorists still support Terrorism. In my opinion, anyone who values Freedom must understand that most Leftists are The Enemy.

 

Fair enough. I agree we just have different lines on that political spectrum. I am just trying to understand your point of view, and WHY you feel so strongly about it that you will not waver or consider anything else.

Perhaps you are doing the same. I can hope, right?

I apologize if I am getting so emotional that my words may be bothering you. I really do.

 

You say that, and you expect those Leftists to compromise or work with you in any way?

There are a lot more of them than there are of you, and if you keep triggering them for the lulls, they may decide to step it up. And then it won't matter if what they are doing is right or wrong, because you (your side) may likely be dead at that point.

So, wouldn't it be more prudent to try and treat them with some measure of respect? You get more flies with honey than vinegar you know.

Work with them, try to understand them, try to convince them to understand you. Compromise a bit on your beliefs, while convincing them to compromise a bit as well.

Otherwise, you reap what you sew.

 

The Enemy's use of threats noticed.

My advice to all Humans would be to regard Leftists as the Enemy. I never advocate anything illegal, but I would advice any Human sitting on a jury in any case involving a Leftist to take Leftist support of violence and opposition to Fundamental Human Rights into consideration.

 

This is not a true statement.

 

Cattle are red/green colorblind. The statement that bulls don’t see color is patently false. Apparently liberal bias is to believe they are correct when they actually are ignorant on the entire subject.

 

And my advice to all Humans is to try and not make enemies as best you can. Because if you are going to have black and white beliefs, and then take a side, that's a LOT of other people that will end up becoming your enemies, because you have to be so black and white that you can't even consider their feelings or beliefs as equal to yours.

 

I find Conservatives to be more tolerant of their political opponents. They will listen and try to see other viewpoints. They may or may not agree but they listen and give thought to other ideas usually in a more passive, balanced, respectful and open manner.

On the other hand, the 'progressive' wing of the left see themselves as infallible and always right in their beliefs. They have no flexibility and see themselves as superior in their mindset. They feel entitled to feel this way and are more likely to act out in an aggressive manner because they mistakenly think that everyone should think like they do. If they can't shut you down with words or actions they will try to sue you. All of which is played out of sheer arrogance and certainly not respect.

Again, never the 'twain' shall meet unfortunately.

 

I am not a Conservative -- I am Humanitarian.

I disagree with Conservatives on guns and Welfare State.
I disagree with Liberals on Censorship and Identity Politics.

Conservatives are more tolerant.

 

I detest identity politics but I am never going to get in someone's face about it.

 

I mean no disrespect to you PERSONALLY, however that is the biggest overdramatic statement regarding abuse I have ever heard and borders on offensive to people that have been victimized by actual abuse and wear the scars of it for the rest of their lives!!

People for decades have worn political attire, or even campaign slogans, buttons and nobody went around punching each other. My God, like it or not Donald Trump is President of the United States and to say wearing attire supporting him is somehow emotionally abusive is asinine! What needs to be looked at is our society and media for being so corrupt that we have such problems today!

This man in the OP was a victim of assault, plain and simple. This is like an argument of when a woman gets hit by her husband and he leads her to believe she triggered him to do it. He wasn't even wearing a freakin MAGA hat to boot.

There are such thing as lunactics, radicals, mental illness, insanity, etc and if one gets that easily triggered they fall into one of those categories.

You stated earlier you felt a national dress code wasn't a bad idea, but you know what that is NOT America! He wasn't nor anyone going about their business wearing political attire warranting abuse or being the abuser...that is just a crazy ideology to me.

I mean we're talking about a hat, here! A HAT!

 

That's what watching CNN and MSNBC is doing to people. It's an addiction to rage.

 

Was she a manly gal? With those man hands?

Or one of them men who thinks they are a girl until they see a trump cap?

I think in a situation like this the fellow should have served up a right cross and knocked her on her arse.

I was taught to never hit a female but hell these days that female might have a penis and testicles!

 

Thank you. Most Conservatives tolerate opposing views. Even those they disagree with.

 

I agree, for ratings, and propagating people works out well for them! More stories, more viewers, greater ratings, but sh*tty for normal people trying to live normal lives. It's damn near brainwashing some people!

 

Yeah, can't say I agree with you here. Although I am not excusing Liberals either.

Part of it is just the particular belief.

Take guns, for example. I am not against all guns, and I would never support a gun ban outright. But I am okay with more stringent controls for the sale of guns, including a registry, if that's what it takes to help reduce gun violence. The slippery slope fallacy doesn't really concern me. We will deal with the slope as it happens, and doing nothing at all, and just letting things keep getting worse, is far worse a mistake than doing something, seeing if it works or not, and re calibrating.

But for many conservative posters on this board, there can be no prohibitions to the 2nd amendment. No limitations, and that is not something I can agree with.

But then, when people try to have discussions on the message board, do they try to have a civil discussion with the liberals? No. It usually (though not always) goes like this:

No limits to my rights to own guns. I don't care about what you believe in. You don't like it, well, too bad.

And please note, I am using kinder word choices than they tend to.

And maybe it is different on other boards. But on this board, I mostly see this type of argument coming much more frequently from posters that jive with conservative values than liberal ones. And it hurts.

I'm not wholly liberal, after all. When it comes to immigration, I fall much more on the conservative side than the liberal one. And although I may not like big business practices like I see many conservatives do, I do like their self-responsibility mantra, to a point.

I guess, in the end, I believe in being the best and most moral person I possibly can be, as much of the time as I can be. I don't expect myself to be perfect, and I know I will have bad days, but the point it to treat people with respect and kindness and to be considerate of THEIR beliefs and needs, even if they don't jive with my own.

The problem, for me, is that I kind of DEMAND the same from others. Yeah, I know it's a problem. It's why I am human.

 

Actually I heard a radio interview with the victim, and he said she was built like a female MMA fighter. He said she knew how to throw a punch.

 

Its full on brainwashing.

 

I bet she has a coexist sticker on her subaru

 

It is Off Topic and nothing to do with any type of bias. Here ya go.....I was not entirely correct:

 

Damn, learn something new everyday. I actually thought bulls were color blind as well...and I am from the right wing Lol...

 

Or Prius! Lol

 

WOW! In some ways you are more Conservative then me. I am also Humanitarian -- not Liberal not Conservative.

But I view anyone trying to take my Free Speech as The Enemy.

In 1950s, Conservatives were much more for Censorship. Now it is Liberals.