Are you really that square?? A man doing the same job as a women does not deserve the same pay either is what i said right after that, you know damn well what my point is, you're just deciding to take it out of context and run away from the discussion. Just so were clear i'll say it again, it doesn't matter your gender, you should not get paid more because you have a dick or a vagina. You should not get paid the same as a man doing the same job as you just because you're a woman, being a woman is not a reason to get a raise. Same with men, men shouldn't get to make more or less than a woman because they are men and are doing the same job, there are differnt factors involved in getting paid while doing the same job, even though it is actually rare that happens
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"Square" ? You use the term "square" ?! With that term and your attitude about women You ARE right out of the fifties !! ""A woman doing the same job as a man does not deserve the same pay!"" That is pure sexism and misogyny....and usually never changes....I don't see you changing..
Differences between genders?!? You sexist!! Disclaimer: this is a highly sarascastic remark aimed to poke fun at people who think they are more cultured or open minded or contemporary because they deny a difference exists despite the fact evidence for it is everywhere. I am so glad my husband doesn't knit, frequently cry, and loves grilling and football. Amd American men are falling all over Hilary Clinton because of her power and influence...NOT! But they sure think Selena Gomez is desirable.
I might be a little outdated on the terms so yeah i keep it square. Anyway i'll wait for you to refute anything i said.
Nope, I was bored with your rhetoric in the 60's....some people just don't want to leave the 50's. You said it , you own it: ""A woman doing the same job as a man does not deserve the same pay!"" That is pure sexism and misogyny....and usually never changes....I don't see you changing..
The world looks quite a bit different when you move out of mommy and daddy's house, work for a living, grow up, have a family, finance a home, pay for your own insurance (health, life, car, home)... Realism begins to replace youthful, unrealistic idealism.
Now it just feels like im talking to a robot here. I owned what i said, time for you to own that you're falling short on your arguments and found best to keep quoting the same thing over and over hoping you won't have to discuss more.
You're correct and when the poster who states, """"A woman doing the same job as a man does not deserve the same pay!"" does all those things maybe they'll have a different viewpoint.....maybe...That is pure sexism and misogyny....and that usually never changes....
I thought I explained....when a person says, """"A woman doing the same job as a man does not deserve the same pay!"" they are on a level where no amount of facts will change their mind.
You can keep quoting it all you want, won't change the fact that you ran out of facts to change my mind.
Poster followed by saying pay should be perforformanced based regardless of gender. I'd ask if you're being disingenuous, but I believe you are really that obtuse.
Feminism usually correlates with easy divorce and a separation of property during/after marriage. This is of course not really good for women but it gets promoted as "feminist" anyway. Personally I have had the privilege of traveling all over the world. I've found women in the United States, United Kingdom and Japan to be standoffish, hostile and suspicious. Women in Italy and Taiwan are sweet and approachable. At first there might seem to be no correlations between these countries but there actually is a very simple explanation. In the first three countries divorce is easy and property is usually separated after divorce. In the latter two countries divorce is more difficult. My theory is that the women in these countries are nicer because they know you can't easily dump them and upgrade later on. You can even theoretically be jailed for adultery in Taiwan although I don't think it happens very often. Point is that I think it's better for a country to have high standards for marriage and relationships. Western feminism seems to be a proxy for the lust of college girls and baby mommas who don't want to get married anyway and not much else.
I think you're both trying to twist/spin """"A woman doing the same job as a man does not deserve the same pay!"" ....into something else......the words are very clear.......very sexist, misogynist, out-dated, old-fashioned, backwards and ignorant. Neither one of you will ever "get it"...sexism is very deeply ingrained and I was bored fighting against it 20 years ago....I accepted that there will always be people like you....
You know perfectly well what i meant, i thought i might have not made my self clear, but another poster understood it, you're the only one that wants to keep playing this charade.
Don't you have a sweater to knit or a cake to bake? Acknowledging that men and women are different when evidence of that is everywhere in society requires no twisting or lying kiddo.
Was that crack about knitting and baking showing total disrespect for typically "female" occupations? Why YES! I think it was It was meant to be an insult. Don't you have a butt to kiss and logs to fetch? See, two can play but again, this crap got boring 20-30 years ago.... Maybe someday you'll enter the 21st century.......but I won't wait around...
So you just indirectly called men a bunch of bums, and you're surprised with the rhetoric against feminists? The truth is a feminist is a vulture, feminists are always vultures. it's the very first thing a man should look for: How much of a vulture is she? When is she going to take advantage of me? These are the things I look for. You look for the negatives before the good. And if there are no or few negatives, she's hit the clear. Women do it all the time, but when we do it, it's "sexist". No, it's not sexist. It's looking out for our own good in light of self-sabotaging "partners".
Read the thread and you'll get where I was going with this. - - - Updated - - - Typically female occupations? What a sexist thing to say!
Where in the US did you visit? Approachability varies here a great deal. There are huge differences usually regional, cultural, and socio-econimic.
