Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Then release the transcripts and the minutes of the meetings with line officers. And the CJCS does not warn Pentagon leaders he is the adviser to the President and NSC he does not order nor command anything. If he said anything at all about even a one second pause that any officer should engage in or any check me first if the Preisdent issued ANY ORDER he violated the UCMJ and legal statute.
     
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    That was not challenged by anyone that had the authority to challenge it. He was authorized. Milley finished.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, you claim, that Milley contacted the Chinese military advisor of the Chinese Communist ruler?

    By what authority?
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Great then let's unmask it and put out a transcript and yes for Flynn they used it for an excuse. In fact let's have a couple of FBI agents call up Milley and tell him they want to come over and just a friendly chat, no need for an attorney and see if they can catch him in a phony perjury trap.

    He allegedly instructed line officers to not follow the command of the President unless they cleared it with him. He has no command authority how many times do you have to be told that? There is no protocol that a nuclear launch has anything to do with the CJCS is not in that chain of command. They President consults with him at his own pleasure. He allegedly tried to usurp the authority of the President.
     
  5. Talon

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    Other than some jackass trying to set up a junta in this country?

    No one makes a XXXL CYA.
     
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    And he reported his conversation to the President and any concerns he had that the Chinese had this fear of a secret nuclear strike? Did he tell the President WHY the Chinese had this sudden fear? Did he tell the Secretary of Defense and did he tell the President and Secretary of State since this would be a Foreign Policy matter too? The Diplomats need to know so they can act accordingly?
     
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    No, for treason.

    “General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”

    Or at the very least espionage.
     
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    First, my support is not a requirement for the POTUS to release nuclear weapons against China, or anyone else. Nor is yours, Nancy Pelosi's, or that of the CJCOS. Furthermore, even had such a strike been ordered and executed, it would have done nothing to undo the election, and Joe Biden would have still been sworn in on January 20th, 2021. That fate was sealed, regardless of what else might have happened, so if you think that such a military action against China would have changed anything, you are simply wrong. Again. About pretty much everything as it relates to this thread.
     
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    Why tell Trump that the Chinese are afraid he has gone mad?

    Would that have been constructive in your opinion?

    Milley told them not to worry, that the situation was under control.

    It was, with the help of Pompeo, Haspel and some other generals.
     
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    You are right. As is often the case first takes are not always accurate.
     
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    You are exposing your lack of knowledge of military affairs here.

    It regularly happens that the leaders of countries are warned in advance where and when the US will strike.

    Especially when the objective is to destroy facilities and not to kill people.
     
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    Or, assuming the allegations are true, is Milley going rogue again and communicating with his Chinese pals without the CinC's knowledge because Biden is insane?

    You can bet every Leftist defending him today would turn on him in a heartbeat...
     
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    I don't know. I know the allegations that he essentially conspired to undermine the authority of his boss, the President, and communicated secretly with our enemy in China (or friend, if that's what you think they are), if true, does in fact rise to the level of criminality and Treason. Milley himself has said practically nothing about the matter except to deny the allegations. Trump himself said he doubts they're true. I can say that I hope they are not. But if they are, it was Treason, plain and simple. There really is no arguing that point as it's undeniable.

    Whether or not We the People will ever know the truth is yet to be determined. There may be hearings, there may not. If they are held, they may get to the truth, and they may not. But, at the risk of repetition, if the allegations are true, he committed Treason. Full stop.

    He may never answer for that crime, if he's guilty, but that is not relevant to the point that such actions rise to that level.
     
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    His concern seemed to be mainly about Trumps mental state........which was concerning to a lot of people. He is known to be erratic, unpredictable impulsive, and irrational............but mostly he is EMOTIONAL based and reactive. Those qualities should cause concern about his leadership He is too angry to be considered logical, or pragmatic.decisions. Milley was obviously very concerned about what was coming out of trump's mouth.......and saw it as a high risk.


    Unfortunately trump's rage has tapped into the average supporters anger too........ and the identify with him........ and that affects their objectivity.If this book by Woodward et al.......is not defined as fiction........then this situation did take place. Woodward has literary credibility.

    The problem seems to be that when anyone criticizes Trump.....they get trashed verbally.........so few are willing to speak the truth about tRump's mental state and behavior.
     
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    Leftists praises the highest form of treason America has ever seen. Ya, that sounds about right.
     
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    And he'll be applauding from Canada.
     
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    Unlike yourself, Canuck, he served in our military and is quite familiar with the profound issues Milley's alleged misconduct have raised.
     
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    Bullshit. Your own posts disagree with you:

     
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    Doubt it. He only confirmed that U.S. policy hadn't changed and he'd let him know if it did. You don't seem to grasp the significance January 6th had to the rest of the world. My guess is that there were a lot of people in DoD and State reassuring other nations that we still had a stable government and that the coup attempt had failed.
     
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    The issue is not "leftist" or rigtist"............the issue was Trump's mental and behavioral state. ANd no one wants to even consider that.........
     
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    I've said this over and over, but it doesn't seem to be getting through your skull. They do not have that authority. Period. They are not empowered by the Constitution, the UCMJ, or civil law to make such a judgement and take action because of it. Period. There is nothing more to discuss, except the very open question of whether or not he/they did what they have been accused of doing. IF, and to repeat, IF he/they did, then they acted outside the limits of their authority. What you think about it is not relevant.
     
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    Check out Newsmax from September 13, 2021, "Oath Keeper Members Indicted in Plot to Storm U.S. Capitol."
     
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    No, TDS being the true documented mental illness that it is drove people to honestly believe that just because a guy wanted to contest his self-invoked loss (which he and any candidate has always had the right do) that he was going to fire off nukes. Its insanity.
     
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    The political wokeness in the military seems to have weakened every branch of its central command and we happened to witness the fallout in Afghanistan. And now the confirmation that we basically had President Pelosi during the last two weeks of the Trump Administration is another sobering account of how bad things have gotten.
     
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    You've diagnosed both of them? You just stated the opinion of 27 mental health experts, who wrote the book on Trump, was invalid without a personal evaluation and now you're doing what you said was invalid.
     
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