Would you rather have a weak elected leader, or strong unelected leader?

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Would you rather have a weak elected leader, or strong unelected leader?

  1. Strong unelected leader - I lean conservative

    4 vote(s)
    23.5%
  2. Strong unelected leader - I lean liberal

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    0.0%
  3. Weak elected leader - I lean conservative

    8 vote(s)
    47.1%
  4. Weak elected leader - I lean liberal

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    No, it's actually happening. You are simply choosing to deny the truth because lies are easier for you to swallow.
     
  2. Nemesis

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    You have yet to cite to any facts to support your rather outlandish "opinions".
     
  3. ToughTalk

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    You kind of always have to go with what the majority elects. I hate Biden but the idiotic voter base wanted him in so here we are. On the brink of ww3, a large ass recession and inflation that still isnt under control.

    But damn it! We have equity now!
     
  4. gfm7175

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    What more do you want to know?
     
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    Biden was not wanted by anyone but the most fanatic of liberals (iow, communists). Some others would view Biden as the "lesser of two evils" because they've been programmed to hate Trump. That doesn't provide for enough votes in the electoral college, which is why Biden had to be installed rather than elected.
     
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  6. ToughTalk

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    I dunno. I'm done with conspiracy theories. I agree that people have been conditioned on Trump so they picked the lesser of two evils.

    Either way here we are.
     
  7. Noone

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    You’re the one spreading alternative facts.
     
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    Which option for a leader with strong convictions, presence and willpower but weak in authority to exercise power?
     
  9. Nemesis

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    The facts you're supposedly relying on.
     
  10. gfm7175

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    There is no such thing as "alternative facts". You seem to not even know what a fact is.
     
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    What are you not understanding?
     
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    I understand it all. What I don't know is what the Hell you're relying on in arriving at your facially ridiculous opinions. What are you relying on?
     
  13. Noone

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    “I” know what a fact IS, it’s your side that created “alternative facts”. As exemplified by your oligarch, dictator nonsense.
     
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    ... obviously you don't understand then.
     
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    No you don't. You've been using the term 'fact' incorrectly this whole time.

    What is "[my] side"?

    There is no such thing as an "alternative fact".

    It is not nonsense. It is what is happening, whether you wish to admit it or not.

    California is a dictatorship now. New York, DC (the White House/federal government), and South Carolina are oligarchies now.
     
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    I don’t understand why you cling to the lies about how States and DC are run!
     
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    Do do doo do … Do do dooo do!
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    You didn't post any facts. It's hard to "understand" what isn't there.
     
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    What lies?
     
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    The lie that states and DC are being governed any way but in accordance with their and our national Constitution(s).
     
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    They are not being governed according to their constitutions (and are also ignoring the federal constitution).

    South Carolina, for example, is completely ignoring people's 4th amendment right to be secure in their persons.

    California, for example, just doesn't give a damn about anything. Gavin Newsom essentially does whatever Gavin Newsom wants to do.

    DC ignores people's 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment rights, for example. No due process. No speedy trial. etc.
     
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    That is a no-brainer: if your leader is elected, a weak one can be voted out, in the next election (if, by weak, you meant ineffective-- that is, personally weak; you were not clear, as to if you had meant the terms strong and weak to apply, instead, to the actual powers of the office).

    If it had been the office, to which your terms had been meant to apply, it is a wonder how that "choice," could ever come into play. Elected is better than unelected. Fairly strong, is preferable for the leadership role, than weak. So, just to cover all the possibilities, if for some reason, the choice were between an unelected dictator, or an elected leader with severely limited powers, what I would do would be to accept the poor situation of the latter, and advocate for greater executive power, because the former choice, is potentially much, much worse.
     
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    Link that nonsense to something more substantial than your opinion.
     
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    It is not my opinion. It is current events.
     
  25. yardmeat

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    Dude, you have a long history of refusing to provide any kind of evidence of your claims and then whining when asked for said evidence. We're asking for the evidence. Which you get offended about being asked for and which you refuse to provide. Your feelings are not as substitute for facts. Try talking in the language of facts and not just your feelings.
     

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