Writer: Trump Sexually Assaulted Me at Bergdorf Goodman

You deserve a direct, to-the-point answer, Renee. If even one (ONE) of those hypothetical 22 men who made the accusation had any substantial proof, evidence and/or corroboration, then -- YES! I would say that the charge is credible and should be thoroughly heard in the appropriate court or legal forum!

A defense attorney would complain that it is only valid if it 'comes out' during the period covered by whichever Statute of Limitations applies, but, my own feeling is that if the issue in question, and the person being charged, is one who aspires to elected office, then, yes -- the charges should be heard, and the evidence should be presented without prejudice!

Many on the Left feel that we on the Right tend to dismiss any claims against our faction's leaders, but that is wrong! Most of us on the Right believe in no-nonsense Law and Order, understanding clearly that without a bedrock of law, we're all nothing but a mob of unruly, quarreling children.... Parenthetically, we on the Right despair that you on the Left will ever "get" this concept after seeing the way the Left CASTIGATED Brett Kavanaugh without any evidence at all, and yet completely glossed over all the issues with Hillary Clinton in which she broke (BROKE) laws governing national security and classified information....

 

Hopefully women who make false unprovable undefendable accusations in order to ruin someone political will no longer come forward. Wouldn't that be a good thing?

The Democrats and the left and the MSM supported and defended and denigrated those who spoke the truth about a man who sexually assaulted and sexually harassed subordinates in the government work force and reward those who granted him sexual favors with special rewards and treatments and jobs. Then committed felonies in a federal court when one victim sued him.

What leg does the left, Democrats and MSM have coming after Trump for consensual sex as a private citizen?

 

You report it IMMEDIATELY, you preserve evidence of it, you immediately recount what happen so it can be contemporaneously recorded and used as evidence. Spare me if you wait 30 years to bring it up.

 

This is almost cliche. Women don't come forward because they afraid they won't be believed or they'll be questioned is the dumbest thing in the world. Is an accusation of rape against a man the one example of a crime where the allegations should be believed at face value with no investigation or trial? Because a woman claim she was raped, does the presumption of innocence disappear? Sorry sweetie, but hundreds of men have been exonerated of rape charges for which they were convicted since 2000. Google Brian Banks, Kobe Bryant, or the Duke lacrosse team for examples of men who have either been arrested or spent time in prison because they were accused of rape by a liar. And despite what you might think, an innocent person spending time in prison is just as bad as an innocent person not getting justice.

 

You’re exactly why women don’t come forward...you really think sexual assaulters do so with witnesses. I was sexually assaulted and because of men who think as you do, I didn’t tell anyone. Years later a woman in my building was telling the story of a guy in the building who tried to rape her...same MO...same guy. But you wouldn’t believe either of us because he did it privately. And when over 20 come forward you still wouldn’t believe it. Thank goodness for the #me too movement ..women aren’t ashamed and men are getting prosecuted. Look at Weinstein

 

How dare you tell a woman that it was cliche that they weren’t believed .i guess the millions of women who are now coming forward are all cliches Guess you never saw a rape trial....she isn’t believed so you’d feel better. She was asked what she wore, where she was and why she was alone.
What about those lying men who said they were assaulted by priests?so cliche! Sorry little guy, you give examples of exceptions and those women should be prosecuted. It’s like someone’s house burns down, maybe we shouldn’t believe them because they probably set it themselves (sarcasm alert) . I hope you don’t have a daughter

 

Now now women are coming forward...we didn’t years ago because men like you didn’t get it!still don’t

 

Well, honestly, Renee, what do you prefer? That we should revert to a tyrannical situation like they had in France during 'The Reign of Terror', or that of Nazi Germany, where anybody could be accused of anything, without witnesses, evidence or proof, and suffer terribly because of it -- even unto DEATH?!

Look at what the hyperliberal Left tried to do to Brett Kavanaugh last autumn! The Blasey-Ford woman couldn't even remember any specifics about anything, had no proof, and no witnesses -- yet her vague recollections from decades ago were supposed to be adequate to DESTROY a man? It was a spectacle that only Adolf Hitler or Josef Stalin could approve of!

We are either a country of laws, courts, witnesses, evidence, and proof, or else we are no better than Nazi Germany....

. A perfect candidate for liberal Democrat ideas of "justice"....

 

Quit trying to be my spokesperson, I can do that very well on my own. Actually it was the time of Bill Clinton's charges of sexual assault and women were coming out. The only people who went after the women Clinton abused were the feminist and leftist.

 

Shame on both of you then for allowing a rapist to reside in your building in order to prey on other women. So according to you women really are the weaker sex?

 

What about those lying women who put innocent men behind bars or ruined their lives forever at the least? And it is not millions of women suddenly coming forward, a few hundred if that many with any credible accusations.

 

I can say whatever I want, and there's literally nothing you can do about it except not read or listen. But that isn't what I said.

So asking what she wore or why she was somewhere is wrong. The former is irrelevant, and the latter represents bad judgement at worse, which is never an excuse for sexual assault. However, pointing out inconsistencies in a story, questioning her credibility, and any other sort of thing that would come out of cross examination is something a rape victim has to endure. So yeah, those same old excuses about why women don't come forward are cliche. I know you want a world where rape accusations lead to immediate convictions of the accused, but it's never going to happen. Rape victims will always be questioned because a defendant will always have rights like a trial and facing their accuser. You want something else, move your ass to a country where the justice system operates on the presumption of guilt and hope you're never charged with a crime.

The point went flying over your head. Whether they should be prosecuted or not is a matter of opinion. Those examples were to illustrate why we have a process for convicting rapists.

useless appeal to emotion.

 

Or who believed in due process and that a man is innocent until proven guilty?

 

Trump's a great guy, really. He's just misunderstood, is all.

 

It's hard to prove rape/sexual assault because so much of it is one person's word against the other and has drugs and alcohol involved, the rapist in the mask with a knife who jumps out from behind a bush and kills/seriously injures their victim is thankfully incredibly rare. Forget SVU, real sex crime convictions are in single figures and historical crimes the hardest to prove with memories fading and all evidence destroyed.

 

And you should have spoken up. How was he supposed to know you weren't into it if you never said anything? You can't expect men to be mind-readers.

 

Ahh, groupies, why men become musicians.

 

So you are saying that rape is a relatively new thing in this country and its contrived by women-to get men in trouble, any woman who has been sexually assaulted knows exactly what Cavanaugh did. If she wanted to lie, she could’ve easily made up details. What did she have to gain? Women are not believed. I’m sure you believed that Anita Hill was lying and the 22 women that Trump assaulted .And all those women who got Bill Cosby in jail. One in six women has been sexually assaulted but yet you will make the exception the rule.
Unfortunately I have had too many experiences. one I had wasn’t a sexual assault but it was a Doctor Who I brought my daughter to see. He called me about a week later and asked me to go out with him. We were both married. Many years later I told the incident to a friend of mine who is a doctor and knew him and he said, “he would never do that”.Imagine how rape victim feels. But as I always say you learn more about a person by the side of the argument he defends. You defend rapists I defend the victims.

 

Today I would...and chances are he wouldn’t touch me that way today.I was very young and didn’t want to lose my job. What would make a man think that are young woman doing office work expects a man to massage her neck and shoulders? Again, you’re blaming me , the victim . Would he do that to a guy? There’s a lot of power involved. In my groups men ask me all the time about things like this like complementing etc. I tell them if they would do the same thing to a man and if the answer is no then don’t do it.

 

You are right about sex crime convictions and that is why women especially in the past never reported them. Now it is changing

 

We impeached Bill Clinton, remember? He was investigated And you are wrong about the feminists going after the women. As a matter of fact most feminist leaders asked not to go after her. By the way Paula Jones later said the republicans used her We were fuming at Clinton for being so damn stupid...you defend trump who has the morals of a dog, but he’s a good conman and his base eats it up.Imagine if Clinton or Obama bragged to a young guy how he grabs ******* without even asking or how he brags on the radio that it went in to the locker room to watch naked teen aged girls..you would be outraged.So you know what you can do with your hypocritical moral superiority outrage

 

24 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct?!!
And there will be more too?!! (Sad?)

 

"We"???? The Republicans did for perjury and obstruction of justice. The Democrats said that did not warrant impeachment let alone removal from office. They and the left worship him to this day.

Absolutely false as they stood by Cloning.

Paula Jones stands by her lawsuit as she should. And the left and Democrats were fuming he got caught not about what he did. They went after the woman who held him accountable with a vengeance and still do to this day.

"And they let you" stop making false accusations. And no I didn't vote for him and can't stand him personally, shame on him for some of his behavior. But you have no impeachment or criminal charges.

 

Yet Clinton had a rape accuser that never accepted any recompense to tell her story. Trump talked locker room talk. Bad. Clinton raped women and had a bimbo eruption team. Good.

 

Like so many liberals, you make many assumptions that are baseless, and you accuse me of supporting rapists instead of victims. Do you see how even doing that is an act of condemnation without any proof or evidence?! You judge and condemn me, and my support of the concept of support for bedrock principles of jurisprudence, without any reason at all. Do you begin to understand why many of us in the "center" and on the Right are highly distrustful and skeptical of people on the Left who do this routinely?

I'll close by suggesting, once again, that if anyone has been the victim of any crime, they need to take the necessary steps to report the alleged crime and bring the person(s) whom he/she believe did it brought to justice in a rapid, efficient way -- and not wait DECADES later, 'coming out' with a scattering of half-remembered, half-imagined memories -- with no evidence at all....

Renee, you can go back to the beginning of civilization and see that presumption of innocence, along with the requirement of evidence in disputes and allegations of crimes, have been required in all civilized societies. You can go back all the way to Babylonian Law, and the Code of Hummurabi and see that the bedrock principles of handling disputes and deciding guilt or innocence in crimes is consistent all the way back to at least 1,700 B. C. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

I don't know how to comment about your encounter with the married doctor who asked you (also married) to "go out with him". Did he actually 'do' something to you? Then you should have reported the incident to the law enforcement authorities! Did he suggest behavior you wanted no part of, but did not touch you? You might have told his wife, and your husband. But to just sit there and stew about it for years on end, and then use the resultant 'angst' as leverage to make baseless, unfounded assumptions about other people you don't even know is both unfair and senseless....