You guys need to watch this interview/documentary with an 11 yr old transgender

This illustrates perfectly the reason we are facing these problems. Too many people are not willing to say something is wrong because they might hurt someone's feelings.

It is wrong for a little boy to call himself a girl. It is wrong to not do everything possible to correct that wrong. It's even more wrong to go along with the boy who thinks he's a girl.

He is a "he" and no amount of politically correct, pop culture whimsical nonsense can alter that truth. Get a grip with reality already!

People like you have caused these problems and people like you are making it worse.

 

Im not gay, but I can remember being attracted to girls before age 11. I would believe, If I were homosexual, those feelings do not "start" later in life.

Similarly, if one is conscious of their sexual atractions at a young age, one can also be aware and conscious of their gender.

 

I still don't understand what is wrong.

Why?

You aren't doing anything, shame on you.

You haven't done anything to stop it so that's two wrongs on your part.

She is a she. Let me ask you, do you inspect everybody's crotch prior to addressing them? If not, you may have very well referred to a transgender person with pronouns you don't like.

Nope, people like you are making problems that don't exist.

 

So there's a political split once again?

The conservative minded want people to conform to their sense of normality, the liberal minded want people to be comfortable with who they are whatever that may be.

I'll go with the people who'll leave me be, thanks. The other route looks like fascism from where I'm sitting and who knows what they might decide is OK or not if given enough rope to hang anyone not in accord with their personal beliefs.

 

And I apologized and restated for clarification. Get over yourself.

Same-sex marriage doesn't only apply to homosexuals. Heterosexuals could also take advantage of it.

I don't know; it takes all kinds. I've read over and over from people who don't support same-sex marriage that homosexuals already have the right to marry; they just can't marry someone of the opposite sex. I don't know why they want to, either, but I've never seen you question that logic. It's the same as mine, only in reverse.

I'm sorry if my political views are complex for you to wrap your head around. Would you prefer that I lie about my opinions and pretend to be in complete agreement with every liberal talking point on same-sex marriage? Would that be easier for you to grasp within the boundaries of you over-simplistic and sophomoric world view of "Us vs. Them"?

 

I'm sorry, bad editing on my part made my response to this question confusing. I meant to say, "I've read over and over from people who don't support same-sex marriage that homosexuals already have the right to marry; they just can't marry someone of the same sex."

 

Great post. Youre 100% correct on all counts.

 

Please. No you cannot. You require a third party, and even after that one of you will have no genetic affiliation with said child...not anything like the person you responded to with this nonsense.

I know it's not PC to remind you, but no...it's not the same thing at all. Shame on those who don't correct you and allow you to believe this falsehood. It's the same crowd that calls a little Boy "she" I guess.

 

Thanks, I'll take this as an acknowledgment that you can't find fault with anything I said.

Then you oughta have sense enough to realize you're not gonna get that done by messing around with his brain.

 

Yes I can.

What backward ass biology book have you been reading? It takes a second party like it does for any being in a binomial sex species.

Uh, who cares if my spouse isn't related to my kid by consanguinity, they would be related by affinity. Just like many step parents.

You mean to say it's not "C" political or otherwise it just isn't correct. It's the same damned thing.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha... You think it's falsehood that a sperm and egg have to meet to make offspring?!?! (where is an interabang when you need it?) No I know you missed biology.

Pffft

 

Once again.....

This illustrates perfectly the reason we are facing these problems. Too many people are not willing to say something is wrong because they might hurt someone's feelings.

It is wrong for a little boy to call himself a girl. It is wrong to not do everything possible to correct that wrong. It's even more wrong to go along with the boy who thinks he's a girl.

He is a "he" and no amount of politically correct, pop culture whimsical nonsense can alter that truth. Get a grip with reality already!

People like you have caused these problems and people like you are making it worse.

 

Or maybe they just don't see the issue as wrong.

Maybe some people don't consider it a problem.

 

I understand some people believe our body is all we are, but I just do not believe that, I believe we are much more then just our bodies

I believe we have souls, and sometimes a feminine spirit enters a masculine body or visa versa...

sometimes a body even has both genitalia

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Uh, if being gay was "natural", then evolution wouldn't have set up the procreation process to require two humans of the opposite sex. Evolution would have taken the simpler way out.

You see, being gay among AMOEBA is what you call "natural".

Now if a group of amoebas stage a "Gay pride parade", I won't think they're trying to rationalize their behavior, or convince us that their behavior is okay.

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We are more than our bodies, yes. But there is no such thing as gender of spirit. There's just spirit. You have it. And with it, you make your mind up as to whether you want to be/feel/act like a girl or a guy. And the body reflects that decision. Got a dick or a cootchie? It's that simple.

 

And that's my point. Too many people today have lost the ability to determine right from wrong. I suspect you are one of those.

We need to restore the ability to determine right from wrong before it's too late.

 

The only possible person who could be considered sincerely gay is someone who DOES have both genitalia. Their DNA is truly confused. For every other gay, they've just decided (at some level, perhaps very deep) to be gay. They have a right to that decision, though of course that right doesn't make it a wise decision.

 

You are correct.

 

Just keeping the goalposts where they are, despite all your attempts. You guys like to rewrite things and hope people accept them.

When you guys start saying you're having kids...just like the Heterosexuals...it's time to put the brakes on.

You are not.

Science helps you get around the fact you can't have them naturally. Theres no Uterus, or Eggs in a mans rectum, sorry.


You shouldnt be claiming "me too" and then when pointed out thats untrue...to come back with "Who cares if..." That "if" is quite the difference, and shoots down the comparison you tried to make.

 

And yes, even if he would have sex reassignment surgey and took hormones, HE will NEVER be a FEMALE, just a surgically altered male taking hormones! It's a CRIME on humanity that doctors where allowed to develope these surgeries and further, it's a crime that these "disorders" are no longer considered what the are... DELUSIONS, MENTALL ILLNESS.

PS...I am a FAR LEFTIST and not a conservative in any way.

 

I wouldn't personally encourage my own son of nine to act like a girl, even if he told me that how he felt. He needs more time to grow and mature before making such a drastic decision, in my opinion. Other people may disagree with me, but it's not my business to tell them how to raise their child. I don't think issues such as gender identity need to have a universal consensus on their morality. The morality of such culturally harmless issues ought to be determined on an individual level.

On many issues, right vs wrong is a matter of opinion. You have offered very little support to show that changing one's gender is wrong. I don't see how it harms our society, especially considering that it affects so few people.

 

It's still happening, though, in spite of your rants claiming that it's impossible.

 

like I said, if all you believe we are is our bodies, and do not believe we have a life force\soul, than I understand why you feel the way you do

 

Yup, your gender is JUST what your body, say's it is, JUST what's between your legs, PERIOD, anything else is a DELUSION, a MENTAL ILLNESS or at best IMAGINATION, not fact.

Nobody has ever "transitioned" to the opposite sex. Some have had cosmetic surgery and taken hormones to MIMIC the sex that they want to be, but are not and will NEVER BE.

It's a crime against humaity that so called doctors developed such surgeries. PERIOD! A crime because it goes against the Hippocratic credo of "Do no harm".

 

Not quite.
2 Men having kids without science.... the "we're doing the same as you Heteros" crowd ...is impossible.

The science based approach of course is happening. You can't use "it's happening" and try and blend the 2 together. That "it" is trying to cover two situations in your phrase.


Ones natural, one requires a science based end around.

 

Ever wonder why with all the hormones available.....why we chose the wrong direction to administer them? Why did we decide that a Man who thinks he's a Woman....shouldnt get the heavy dose of Male Hormones??

Seems like thats the way to go with all things considered. Leave it to the perverts to go the wrong way on a 50-50 chance.