You moderate Repubs should join the Democratic Party, here's why.

Right.

<coffee please!>

 

Not joining the democratic party.

Thank you.

Good talk

 

Ever since the birth of the modern horror film, post-apocalyptic devastation and social breakdown has been a true given in so many films and TV shows which TWO generations have grown up on.

Who was it who said, we are what we eat? Same for media. Grow up on a steady diet of doom and carnage, you begin to believe we're all headed for Hell and we can't get there fast enough. That's today's younger nihilist leftist, the pimply puke with Mom's deep pockets to bail him out when he goes and gets in trouble.

I grew up watching TV the night the Russians launched Sputnik 1 and scared us silly thinking it was going to nuke someplace in America. I grew up in the earliest stages of national paranoia and I saw us ride that wave and regain our self-confidence and reassess our fears. Ours was an age of optimism because we had faith in human nature.

Who to blame? The people who gave us what we wanted. Hollywood. We went from monsters in rubber suits to true hack-'n'-slash epics guaranteed to warp somebody if they wallow enough in it.

Liberals are big on the post-apocalyptic stuff. Very sure it's all over for America and we are surely doomed no matter what we do.

(*best Lawrence Fishburne voice*) Can SOMEbody find me a positive liberal?

 

Looks like the OP is admitting democrats have gone too far to the left and now wants republicans to join their cult so they can "bring balance". Sounds more like rubbish to me!

 

Those ridiculously-long posts of his don't come from nowhere. Cut-paste much?

 

...Provided they allow all that Joementum to allow a TelePrompter, so Joe can sound cogent.

Will the Donks use COVID as a screen to call off debates? If they do, would YOU vote for a candidate sight unseen?

 

There's a jump-TO-the-shark joke in there somewhere, I just can't quite get it worded right.

These people have degraded our politics to an international laughingstock, and now that they are up to their chins in lava in a Hell of their own making, they say, "Come on in, the water's fine!" Sure!

That list with Boot and the others? No problem. Roll out the buses and get them gone for us. It will be a true public service. After 2020 and the expected wave of Trump votes, we won't miss those turncoats one bit.

 

Conservatives and Republicans are not racist and bigoted fascists who worship the the super rich so have no place in the Democratic Party. In addition, many are Christians and there absolutely is no place in the Democratic Party for Christians.

 

Well I agree that no matter how the candidates do in the debate, it won't move the needle. Biden could poop his pants and start drooling and the media will regale us with how masterfully he handled Trump. As for the average Democratic voter, they probably want Trump out enough to vote for someone who can't remember where he is half the time.

 

COVID will be only one of the many reasons Democrats will use to get out of the debates.

Meanwhile, Trump has requested a fourth debate.

 

I have no common ground with socialist communists who tolerate Antifa killing innocents and burning down buildings.

 

I see that you are absolutely certain of your position. There is no point in debating this with you as I won't ever convince you that at the time several sources thought exactly like me, even though I provided the evidence by quoting two of them here with verifiable links, but you insist with the filling in the blank thing, which is getting very close to a personal attack. Given that I don't do those, I won't fight back in kind.

You second post again goes on and on but basically can be summarized in one point: you underestimate how Politics is often the art of deception, unfortunately, and while you accuse me of trying to fit Biden in a frame, I'd say you're trying to fit all politicians in this frame where they would never flip-flop against the party's platform and against what they promised to voters even in essential issues they base their election or re-election on. So, I'd like to meet the idealized politicians YOU have in mind. Certainly it would be nice if they were like that, so that we all wouldn't need to be naive to think so.

Given that I detect a certain ideological orientation in your tone (I may be wrong but that's the vibe you are giving away), I wonder if you have ever berated Barack Obama for promising to voters "you can keep your doctor" and largely running on his signature initiative of the Affordable Care Act based on this essential - and imaginary - characteristic of it that turned out to be a lot less that what he was willing to stand behind. Because it seems like your (possible) side of the political spectrum has no problem with identifying flip-flopping and broken essential promises by politicians when it's convenient... but when it's not convenient because you all want to depict Biden as this puppet of the Far Left who will never be a law and order guy again (the "Biden will defund the police and you won't have someone to call when the bad guys break in" being a current campaign ad that is airing as we speak, which proves my point), you don't hesitate in saying that such flip-flops are impossible.

By the way, please kindly point to where I said that Biden is a hell of a man. I merely said that I doubt that he is a puppet of the Far Left, and I doubt that he is just like Bernie Sanders regarding these issues, a statement that you didn't hesitate in making, and that I consider way more well, to use YOUR word, preposterous, than anything I said here in this thread. But hey, let's put an end to this discussion. It's going nowhere and while I don't appreciate your veiled personal attack in insisting that I make stuff up (contrary to the clear evidence I've provided), I don't want to lose my civility by reciprocating with some sort of accusation (I did get close there with the "naive" point so I'll stop; it's best to agree to disagree.

I encourage you to refrain from replying. This is going nowhere. If you choose to respond, don't expect another response from me, on this (would love to continue to debate other issues around the forum, though, but this one is not productive. You have a nice day, now.

 

They'd better found a 2nd Rep party. Many Reps don't agree with crooked Donald anymore. See the Lincoln Project.

 

There are very few presidential/VP debates that result in a clear cut win in either direction. That most certainly was not one of them. With that being said, you can find a source that says there was a clear cut winner for both sides in the overwhelming majority of debates, and you provided a couple obscure examples of such, while ignoring my Washington Post link that also referenced CNN where both sources said otherwise. You found a leftist link that said the left candidate won, and I found a leftist link that said the rightist candidate won. A leftist outlet declaring a leftist win is easy to find regardless of who won, but a leftist outlet declaring that the rightist won is extremely difficult to find unless of course the rightist actually won. Its not as if the Washington Post or CNN are in the habit of falsely declaring a Republican victory in a subjective contest such as a debate.

You are correct that I am certain of my position, because I am right. Apparently you want me to accept your link, while you wholly ignore mine. Your claim is that it was a clear cut "spanking", and my claim is that it was a non descript debate without a real winner or loser. In that sense, you have a significantly higher hurdle to clear and you have inarguably done no such thing.

I suspect however that you will simply fill in the blanks and declare this a resounding victory.....if only in your mind.

 

We will disagree on Reagan but liked the rest and general idea.

I was thinking Gabbard Paul would make an interesting ticket ...

On the Left - you have a party that is now the Neocon - Anti Environment party -
On the Right - you have fiscally irresponsible control freaks - who are also neocon - but currently have a better plan for the Environment - "Pipelines Good" - which will also help the economy.