Your gun laws are a mistake: National Rifle Association to Australia

70 pound compound with a solid aluminum harpoon arrow attached to some big floats. then zap it with a 2512 with a 2217 inside it with a ZWICKEY black diamond broadhead

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hardly reason to engage in the collective bedwetting Australia engaged in. One of the guys I work with in archery wanted to defend his world title in Crossbow when it was held in Australia. that country's idiotic laws were such that he could only fly into Perth which would have increased the cost of his trip by many hundreds of dollars. Not surprisingly, the US team didn't attend after sweeping the event in Portugal

 

Yeah it is about 18 foot, ocean going with room for two inboard and two more on top.........

We DO have guns - lots of them

We just have to have a permit first and make sure that if we are not using them on something like this we have them locked securely

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So, one guy is inconvenienced but hundreds are saved...........................cost/benefit ratio?

 

I have a 70-lb compound..PSE Fireflite..$70 + $50 to straya
I would rather give an animal like that some .303 or .06 though.
It could feed the kids lunch for days..
There's a whisker biscuit on that bow..

 

so there are lots of crimes committed with a target crossbow that was made in Australia

I doubt anyone has ever been victimized by someone using this weapon

http://www.ausbow.com.au/paradigm.html

 

NRA stating the obvious, guess Aussies ain't that smart!

 

So the mass killing argument before and after the gun destroying is of no consequence.

 

If the Aussies want to disarm themselves, that's their business. America is not Australia and we refuse to be disarmed by a bunch of lying politicians whose only mission is domination over the population. Likewise, Australia should not inflict their fears on us. We know what we are doing, and unless you want to come here and become a citizen, please respect our rights and stay out of the argument. Have you changed anyone's mind here with your fermongering?I think not, just like none of you wish to have our rights imposed on your fearful and misguided society. There is a reason our shores have never been invaded by another nation, and while patriots have a breath left in their lungs, we will defend her to the end to maintain that record. Obama is the exception, as he hates America and her values, but that slimeball will be gone shortly.

 

do you know in parts of Australia you cannot even own a target crossbow unless you were a member of a club before 2010? we are talking 3000 dollar competition crossbows.

 

Wow, such an attack.

How dare they speak their mind. Freedom of speech must be abhorred in Australia.

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Over a period of years and based on population size, it is not that different so it isn't a matter of if but when it will happen again in Australia.

 

None of my business what Australians do. I liked
Porting there because I have friends. And the women are nice and not too rigid.

Australia never really had a gun problem to begin with. The last stat comparison I have shows Australia and the USA dropping there homicide rate at roughly the same percentage, 33%. But just like England they don't report the same way we do either.

Anyways, did I mention the women?

 

And again a VAST difference between a private citizen voicing an opinion and a large very well funded organisation putting out false and misleading information

 

I didn't know that, but if it's true, it goes to show that rights are granted based on privilege and status, rather than competency such as in American concealed licensing, which is illegal anyway (Shall not be infringed).

 

I happen to be a private citizen voicing MY opinion, and that opinion is that Aussies have given up their freedom for perceived security, which has proved to be a lie from a "large very well funded organization putting out false and misleading information." IOW, you've been hoodwinked, and now you're in a gunfight with a stick and a rock, so to speak. Back to caveman days protecting you and your family. I think that's referred to as re-gression vs pro-gression...and you guys actually did that to yourselves voluntarily? Amazing what people can be talked into.

But that's OK, because I'm sure the government knows better what your rights & needs should be better than you do. Do you plan to give away any more of your rights to the government in the near future? Let us know so we can follow the outcome of that as well.

 

Im an American and dont care at all what aussies do in their own country. Why would I? Gee since one article lumps americans together can we apply the same to all nations?

 

Amazingly the owning or not owning a gun has not infringed my 'rights' but then Australia's legal system is not hooked to some outdated documents somewhere - it is based on a widely revered principle - that of natural justice

You should try it sometime

 

it goes to show its a feudal mentality. the crossbows in question (I compete with one-its made in australia mainly) are expensive (2000 Australian dollars not counting the limbs and sights), heavy (15 pounds of physical weight) and large, with no history of crime use. hunting crossbows are almost never used in crime but in Western Australia, there is a ban on anyone owning even a target crossbow UNLESS they can prove membership in an archery club PRIOR to the ban several years ago. When you see that sort of fascist idiocy, you know its a society where reason has been cast out the window

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what idiocy. your legal system is based on group rights, group guilt and group identity. when one gun owner engaged in a crime, you punished all of them. Its akin to say jailing all Japanese Americans because Japanese bombed pearl harbor-a black mark on our history that your nation seems to ignore and want to repeat. and your rules on target archery bows is positively moronic.

Natural justice-LOL, cowardly group think idiocy

 

'Almost never used'

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...pts-crossbow-ban/story-e6frf7jx-1226035402603

So a few people are inconvenienced! Sob sob! Meanwhile we will not have a repeat of the incident above

But they are not banned everywhere - although WHY this is a problem still eludes me...........

http://www.ausbow.com.au/crossbowinf.html

 

yeah destroy the chance of the child of a crossbow archer taking up the sport because of one shooting. again it shows the moronic group guilt mentality of a cowardly society. It disgusts me how fascist your country has become. One guy killed so everyone else is "inconvenienced" in your world. Its amazing you ban fans don't outlaw knives-I am sure more than one person has been killed by knives.

I am glad I don't live in a nanny state like that. and I am glad we citizens here have the means to resist effectively, that sort of diseased attitude if its attempted to be imposed here

 

No matter what you claim, the fact remains that AUS has just as many mass killings after the gun ban as before. The prime promise of the gun ban has failed.

And the fact remains that Australia wants to export its gun ban attitude to the US, they don't give a wallaby about the US Constitution or the fact that its not their country or their lives or even their business, they just hate the fact that the USA is the example that gun rights work and pokes great big holes in the gun banner claims.

 

The NRA wasn't even looking towards Australia when it issued that statement. It was looking at the US. The NRA really can't be bothered with a small nation like ours. Its manufacturers wouldn't feel a tiny blip if Australia stopped importing weapons and ammo. However it can scare the crap out of some uninformed Americans to make them rush out and buy more firearms. It's all about the money.

And yes, Australians - collectively - should let Americans get on with it when it comes to firearms. It's a domestic issue. Any of us are free to venture an opinion and for the most part that freedom is acknowledged (not that I'm talking about agreement, just the right to speak up) save for a tiny few that get very ruffled. But that's understandable, it happens with various issues and we're all prone to it. Main thing is we do it in a civil manner. I'm a bit over the sanctimonious stuff we get in our media at the latest mass shooting in the States. Report it and that's it, leave the sermons out of it. And enough of the "even Sandy Hook won't change their minds", from our media please.

Now, just to round it off. Australia has not been disarmed. We are two very different countries. We are not slaves (we just have a really useless federal government at the moment). And not everything in this country will harm you, but watch out in the pub on a Saturday night, the two-legged ferals are the most dangerous animals you will ever confront here.

 

Playing 'hide the lolly' again?

Mass killings is not the same as mass shootings - especially when you are including two fires

 

"Natural justice??" You're kidding, right? So, you consider it "natural" to disarm non-criminal citizens, and leave them at the mercy of criminals who have no respect for the law to begin with. Is that what you're saying? That's widely revered Down Under?

All I can say is....Wow! You guys put our liberals to shame if you believe that.

I want to ROFLMAO when they come for your forks, spoons and gardening implements...all of which have been used to kill your fellow Aussies.

 

I'll bite. How is a mass killing different than a mass shooting, other than the obvious lack of bullets involved.

 

We did not ban guns

There is that clear enough?

More guns in Australia now than before 1996 - only now there are fewer in criminal hands than there were before

 

He is including a hostel fire, a fire in an old persons home and a forest fire - near as I can tell

He does not link but to get the numbers he is quoting he has to be using Wiki and that is what Wiki includes

Now let us look at motive - mass shooting the perpetrator goes out to shoot people

Those three 'mass killings' were more about fire than killing people