YouTube bans all anti-vaccine content, not just COVID-19-related

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  1. Condor060

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    I agree. My point is why is everyone pushing for everyone getting vaccinated? Vaccination passports? What about people who already had Covid?
     
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    Yeah, in the US. Not so much everywhere else on the planet. Why is that?
     
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    You are a thought criminal! ****ing OBEY!
     
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    A lot of that does sound like misinformation. But more problematically, people cherry-pick claims like these, don't bother to investigate their veracity before repeating them, and base vaccine misinformation on them. Using your second claim in the list, the one about hospitalizations in Israel, as an example:

    Most of the vaccinated patients who were hospitalized, about 87 percent, were at least 60 years old.

    ...

    Given the large number of fully vaccinated Israelis, some breakthrough cases were expected, health officials say, and a growing body of research has shown those who are unvaccinated face far higher risks of severe illness or death from a COVID-19 infection.

    ... Nearly 60% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Israel fully vaccinated, data shows (beckershospitalreview.com)

    See how it works? You took one incomplete tidbit of information, put it in a long list of other such cherry-picked facts and claims, and tried to use it for some other purpose. You didn't do your due diligence.
     
  5. Condor060

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    These are the reported numbers by the US. You can chose which one you want to discuss

    US Active cases
    9.8 million
    Global Active cases
    18.3 million

    US Covid deaths per 1 million pop
    2150
    Global Covid death per 1 million pop
    615

    US total cases per 1 million pop
    132,000
    Global total cases per 1 million pop
    615

    Are we starting to see a pattern here?
     
  6. Condor060

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    That wasn't the question I asked you but I knew you would deflect like most accuse you of continually.
    MY QUESTION WAS
    How do people on the right try and censor your speech?
     
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    Probably because Trump supporters that puch the anti vax crap are a good part of the cause.
     
  8. Condor060

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    You mean like 65% of Blacks and Lation's? When did they all become Trump supporters again?

    You should get off the CNN info train. These talking point leftist regurgitations don't hold up to reality.

    Everywhere else on the planet 35-40% of hospitalizations are Pfiser vaccinations and they are 13 time higher than anyone who already had Covid and are unvaccinated. Go figure.
     
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    Are you saying blacks are responsible for the unvaccinated.
     
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    Thereby joining the NY Time's "all the news that's fit to print" trash heap.
     
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    Then I have no clue what you think you're asking, as that was what I was talking about

    and yes, some on both the left and right want some posts censored

    anyone that has been here long enough knows that, seems you do too from your response
     
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    False information shouldn't be advised on You Tube anyway and especially any covid vaccines.
     
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    They can do what they want, doesn’t make it any less authoritarian.
     
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    False, censorship is a left wing thing.
     
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    My only answer for your good question is that they are learning as they go, and most medical professionals will err on the side of caution. As far as I can tell, I don't think there is any harm from getting the vaccine if you have had covid.
    I do think everyone should get vaccinated. Forced mandates are unpleasant, but sometimes we have to make rules because people don't want to do the right thing.
    If you consider the responsibilities of the health care profession, it's seems to me to be understandable, especially when 90+% of the opposition is inaccurate and unfounded by facts.
     
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    I find that truly amazing

     
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    The "Right" usually doesn't need to censor other's speech.

    It is the "Right" (some of them) who whine about not being able to post (on Twitter, TT, Etc...) about Alex Jones Fantasies, Q Conspiracies, and Anti-Vaxx Propaganda.

    If that portion of the population actually dealt in REALITY, there would be no reason to ban them.

    Isn't it just tragic that the "Right" got beat to the punch in inventing/controlling FB, YT, Twitter, Etc.?

    It must be frustrating for Anti-vaxxers and people like Trump and Lindell, et.al.
    Oh well, that's showbiz.
     
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    We are far beyond having no knowledge of vaccinated vs pre infected. We have actual data now that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that vaccinated individuals are more likely to be hospitalized than non vax who already had the virus. And we don't know what long term effects are of this vaccine yet as the last time we did something like this to rush to a vaccine, we killed thousands of children in the process which is why we went to mandates for vaccine provisions.

    But setting that aside, given what we know know, it seems to me it would be more important to limit the use of the vaccine to those who never had Covid and those who have underlying medical conditions. Since nobody seems to remember, we had millions of infections prior to the vaccine and it still has a 99% survival rate.

    So why would our government strike such useless division in this country between vax and anti vax? Why lie about only unvax being hospitalized? And why would this government report the US (4% of the worlds population) having more than 50% of the worlds active infections which is a mathematical impossibility? Exponential virus growth doesn't work that way. You couldn't get 330 million people to equal the very same exponential growth as 7 billion.
     
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    Communists
     
  20. balancing act

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    I'm getting to the point where I'm ok with everything being returned back to "normal", mask mandates and all. Everyone over the age of 12 has had an opportunity to get the vaccine. If someone wants to not get vaccinated, ok, take your chances. But if the ICU ventilators are being taken up by un-vaccinated and a vaccinated patient needs one, give it to the vaccinated patient first.
    I don't think they want to strike division, I think they get frustrated by the amount of people who are resisting getting vaccinated, causing the hospital systems to get overrun.
    Btw, last time I checked, the survival rate for covid 19 was about 97%. But that is with the hospitals not being full. If more people were hospitalized all at the same time, the survival rate would drop dramatically as people wouldn't have the life saving options available.
    The whole idea the entire time was not to stop the virus as much as it was to slow it down so the medical facilities didn't get overrun. For the most part, they were pretty successful. The death rate would soar if everyone caught it at the same time.
    It's kind of like saying "Since the death rates for car accidents is way down due to air bags, now we can stop requiring them"
     
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    many on the left on this site can attest to the fact that is not true, you may think only the right get posts censored, but you would be wrong
     
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    I'm not against anyone who wants the vaccine to be able to get it. My problem stems from false information for crowd control and the information they are withholding from the public.
    I haven't seen any numbers reported that generate a 97% survival rate. The absolute lowest I have seen is 98.6%. And you might want to note another little hummer they aren't disclosing.
    We have huge amounts of medical staff leaving these hospitals who mandate the vaccine. I think it a hospital in Memphis who just closed down their maternity ward because their staff have quit and they have no idea when they can open that ward again.

    So in a lot of hospitals right now, its not a bed problem, they have a staff problem and can only host (X) amount of patients. These medical crews that are refusing the Pfiser vaccine have their reasons as they are the same medical staff that haven't refused flu vaccines in the past.

    You have Biden mandating vaccines even for those who already had Covid or they lose their federal jobs? How do you instill trust in a vaccine that has to be mandated?
    You have states mandating vaccine passports or you don't get served?

    Nothing they are doing revolves around science. It revolves around politics. If they did something as simple as made a passport that recognized vaccinated as well as pre infected, don't you think this would take on another face? But they won't do that. Its Vax or nothing?

    Honestly, even if I hadn't already had Covid, I wouldn't take that shot. I feel my chances are better without it and the continued false advertisements only confirm my suspicions.
     
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    :roflol:
    Yup.

    It is all a big conspiracy...
    Covid is no big deal...

    And, a 99% survival rate in the USA would equate to ONLY 3.3 Million Dead...
    Sure thing...:bored:

    Anyway back to the OP Topic, and YT's Ban on Anti-Vaxx Propaganda, I agree with their decision.

    Nobody is being "censored".
    They have Thousands of other ways to spew the Anti-Vaxx Propaganda.
     
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    LMAO...I love your snippets. Let trump speak and listen to all the pandemic hoax bullshit and vaccine denigration that he spouted since it all started then get back to us with the song and dance that trump was leading and supportive during the pandemic.
    Nobody who lived through it believes it. It was one reason he lost the election
     
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    I don't like long pants, yet I am required to wear them at work.
    I don't like numerous thing that I am forced to do, yet I don't cry my freedoms are being stripped away from me.

    The truth of the matter is we have to live our entire lives with rules and mandates, only dipshits confuse these mandates and rules we have to follow as our freedoms being stripped.
     
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