Z's First Court Appearance: He Lied Under Oath

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  1. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    You're a liar,,,,,,no,,,,,,you're a liar ,,,,,,no,,,,,,you're a liar ,,,,,,no,,,,,,you're a liar

    ,,,,,,no,,,,,,you're a racist,,,,,,no,,,,,,you're a racist,,,,,,no,,,,,,you're a racist,,,,,,no,,,,,,you're a racist

    Does this crap ever end???????????????
     
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    "Accurate estimate" is an oxymoron.
     
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    Z is 28. He said he though T was in his late teens i.e he though T was no more than 18 years old. In case you are bad at math, 28 - 18 = 10 so Z did in fact say that he had thought T was at least 10 years younger than him althought not exactly in those words. That's how logic works.
     
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    Which was smart of Zimmerman's lawyer to make.Because now if the Prosecution
    provides some evidence and claims it as proof then all O'Mara has to do is
    put that Gilbreath on the stand and make him explain why he said " No " ... they had
    NO evidence to prove or disprove who took the first punch and was the aggressor.
     
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    So you are saying that Trayvon had a birth abnormality that his face did not grow from the age of 12, but his body did?
     
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    A "late teen" person is at least a decade younger tha a 28 year old. . . A late teen is still an adolescent. A 28 year old is a full grown man.

    Therefore, GZ was correct when he reported tothe dispatcher that Trayvon was in his "late teens". And he lied when he said under oath that he "thought he was just a few years younger than 28."

    And, while 10 years is not much between 45 and a 55, it is much greater between 17 and 28!
     
  7. Ronald0

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    No one said it did. The point is that Z lied about what he thought T's age was. Why he did it, is anyone's guess. But the fact remains he did and it leads one to think if there are other things also that he has fabricated.
     
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    19 is also late teens, in case you ar ebad at not just making up bullcrap. At NIGHT, from a distance, he estimated.

    Since you want to split hairs:

    29-19=9. 9 is < 10, "Mathlete".

    More to the point...what does it MATTER?

    The state has already admitted that it cannot refute Zimmerman's claims that he was attacked walking back to his truck, or that MArtin threw the first punch.
     
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    Huh? Doe your words even make sense to yourself? T was 17 years old. Z thought T was around 17 years old. He was built strongly enough as many 16 year olds are. Where does the abnormality come in?
     
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    Be that as it may Zim was accurate in his estimate
     
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    LOLOLOL.

    This kid was old enough to be charged with capital murder in the State of Florida. Whats pathetic is you still think he was about to be off to Harvard and was an honor student and an all American hero. The fact is sweetheart is that he was at LEAST 5 inches taller than Z. All you have to hold onto is this age thing (big shock), and thats really pathetic, not to mention responding to my posts so I will pay attention to you.
     
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    Your statement doesn't make sense! If zimmerman could accurately estimate the age of the kid IN THE DARK. . . What excuse does he have to contradict his own estimate that it was just a teenager 6 weekslater when the fact of the kid's age is know AND is congruent with GZ's first impression?
     
  13. Ronald0

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    Fine. Make it 9/ Doesn't change anything. 9 years younger to a 28 year old is NOT just a little younger.

    Yes the state has admitted that they don't have that evidence. The main evidence will be Z's story of what really happened. And it will be these little inconsistencies which will sink him if he's lying.
     
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    A 6'3" "late teen"is a young man, for all intents and purposes,and ,once again, WHAT DOES IT MATTER?

    Zimmerman's GUESS while talking on the phone is not impeachable, as it was an ESTIMATE.

    Even more to the point, it MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.
     
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    So all 17 year olds are the same height? Is that your reasoning? So Zim is not a teen identifier pedophile, who did not accurately guess the age of the hooded 6'3 kid? LOL.
     
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    I explained this a while back.On the 911 call Zimmermans wasn't up close.
    Once on the ground and being beaten by someone much taller takes on a different
    interpretation.
    Suffice to say Zimmerman saw Trayvon much differently from when he said " Late Teens "
    to when he on the ground and Trayvon " had the upper hand ".
    I dare say Trayvons age grew by leaps and bounds in the course of mere minutes.
    So ... What Zimmerman said on the stand makes perfect sense.
     
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    Yes he ESTIMATED that T was at least 9 years ago. But later he said that he ESTIMATED that T was just a little younger or maybe 5 years younger at best.
     
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    You can find that if you google it.

    Does this now mean his parents are liars?
     
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    Says who? Your arbitrary definitions have no legal bearing.
    The state, by its own admission, CANNOT MAKE ITS CASE, which, we NOW KNOW, is built entirely on SPECULATION.

    It has become GLARINGLY OBVIOUS why the special prosecutor DODGED THE GRAND JURY. She wouldn't have been able to make her PURELY POLITICAL "SHOW ARREST", on a charge SHE KNEW the state could not prove, IMO.
     
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    And yes after the death of T he even knew his exact age. Byut that's irrelevant. Originally he had thought T to be at least 9 years younger but then he changed his statement.
     
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    PLease provide link to that EXACT QUOTE.

    ANd then tell us all HOW IT MATTERS?
     
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    Correct. He got the age of the kid right, he knew at the time he shot the kid that it was a teenager. But he tried to change that onthe stand, under oath, in an attempt to make us belief that Trayvon looked lie a full grown man. . . Which he didn't. Even the most recent pictures still show him as a linky teenager. in ten years time, Trayvon would probavly have been 6-3 or 6-4 and weifht about 200lbs. . .full of muscles, like his dad.

    Big difference!
     
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    He didn't "change his statement". He ONLY MADE ONE, about Martin's age. The other was an ESTIMATE, on a phone call, at night.

    Again, please explain HOW IT MATTERS....?
     
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    Um ... I do so hate to brag but at this stage I'm about ready to wrap this case.
    up.The Sanford Police were correct all along.There was nothing to charge
    Zimmerman with.It's fairly obvious that he was acting in self-defense.
    Just because a lynch mob was assembled by guys who make a living
    in such unamerican folly is no reason for cooler heads not to prevail.
    I know ... I know ... But what about all the Dungeons & Dragons whizz
    nerds who live for that kinda crap in real life.
    They'll just have to get over it and find a new Toy to preoccupy their
    Slacker arses.
     
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    You said I make stuff up, I said give me an example, At least you could be a man about it and either respond or admit your a little coward.
     
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