Everything you wanted to know about the 9/11 official conspiracy theory in 5 minutes.

Well, I'm glad to see that the truthers aren't lowering themselves to that type of behavior.

 

I watched it and laughed the whole way through. It was a pretty good product. Can't say I believe it, but with the Government, anything is possible.

 

OK, I’ll give it a whirl.
First of all, the “fact”, (not to be confused with an opinion,) that it would be nearly impossible for a trained pilot to fly a supposed 757 jet at over 120 knots above maximum speed capacity and hit a low target like the Pentagon building with that kind of precision was pretty compelling.

How some guy who took about 8 hors of flying lesson in a flight simulator managed to pull it of is nothing short of absurd.

How convenient is it the air traffic control radar, just lost track of the plane over 8 minuets before it hits? 84 surveillance cameras were on and working all around the Pentagon, and yet all we got to see was 5 lousy frames of footage from just 1 of them? Never mind the fact all the video evidence from every surrounding private business was confiscated!

Then what little we did see of the hole in the building showed no sign of the planes wreckage, no sign of impact from the engines on ether side, no luggage, no plane seats, (which always seem to be all over the place in a crash,) and it magically hit the one part of the Pentagon that just happen to house all the computers and offices that might be linked to the 2.8 Trillion dollars that Donald Rumsfield announced was missing the day before.

Add in some of the dinkier parts like the cell phone expert who says you can’t make a call from a jet moving at that speed, and the lady who walked out of the big hole and never saw a sign of a plane, but is being threatened by government officials, and the black box that got damaged and ruined, it’s a compound cover up.

The thing that upsets me is it’s like a domino effect. Once you come to accept that even just the Pentagon attack was a hoax and/or staged event, because it took place on at nearly the same time as the other attacks, you have to conclude it was all in correlation to each other. In other words, the whole thing had to be an inside job, not just part of it.

For me, evidence is about accumulation, 1 thing cannot make or break a case, but when you add one thing after another and another and another, on and on and on, it becomes impossible for me to dispute it.

I always see everything like a big scale, and you take what evidence you get and you place it on that scale as for or against the theory, topic, case, whatever you want to call it, and that’s normally how I lean one way or the other. Whichever evidence accumulates the most reputable data will tip the scale in that direction, except in this case, it’s completely out of balance!

I have my own opinions on what happened and why, but that’s best left for another day. For now, I just feel sick knowing people right here in this country got away with it. All the death, the soldiers thrown into the grinder, the “collateral damage” to so many lives, it was the worst crime in American history, committed by Americans no less.

 

To answer the second part of your question, you wanted to know why none of this has ever been questioned and answered?

It has been questioned, just not by anyone in a position to get real answers. If someone is going to go through the trouble of covering something like that up, then they sure as heck are not going to answer or reply to any of this.

Besides, Americans are gullible and stupid as a whole. They don’t want to believe we did this to our selves, they want to have someone odd, weird, alien, strange, different to point a finger at and blame. We are easily mislead.

Most people back off when they get told they are unpatriotic for even asking. Like having faith in God or something. We’re not supposed to question those in charge, or at least as long as they are not half African and a Democrat. LOL!

I’ve never been a good sheeple.

 

You shouldn't question anything "official". Nobody told you that?

I've never been a very good sheeple either. Not mainstream I know but, I like to think on my own..not a very popular thing amongst mother Russia today.

 

Ahh, another example of the ego of the conspiracy theorist. Just because you don't believe what other people around you believe, that does not make you less susceptible to suggestion. It does not inherently make you more analytical then they are. It most likely means you have different primers.

My bet is that you make just as many decisions based on random bias as everyone else does. In short, you're just a sheep from a different flock, buddy.

 

Very well. You got me good. Continue with your "official" agenda and enjoy.
You're the most informed, and I'm just a commie conspiracy theorist. My bad. You have a great day now, ok?

 

Possibly because it would be even more suspicious if the information leaked out instead of him announcing it.

 

If missing is not how you want to put then fine. He declared that money was untraceable as in they know they used it but don't know what they used it on. It was on CBS and countless news articles, there is no denying it.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU"]9/10/2001: Rumsfeld says $2.3 TRILLION Missing from Pentagon - YouTube[/ame]

 

Again, the desire is for truth. No error in logic either, just reasonable suspicion. It is not that the military was admitting to poor accounting practices, they actually did a great job in that respect, which is exactly why they needed to announce it so that it wouldn't look even more suspicious if it were discovered through a whistle blower. Here is a plausible scenario to answer your questions: If that 2.3 TRILLION dollars were used to coordinate 9/11 then it would, without a doubt, be the task of the military. People would start to wonder where 25% of the defense budget went so Rumsfeld announced this to the Pentagon the day before so that the next day everyone would just forget about it. The Pentagon even stopped its investigation on the Army's budget.

 

Who's denying it?

 

The guy who is not you denied it. Read what I quote to avoid this in the future.

 

Who are you responding to here? Who called you a commie conspiracy theorist? Who said they were the most informed?

 

lets go back to the equation, and lets use the acceleration of gravity as 9.8m/s^2 or 32.15 ft/s^2 and that the distance from Vi to Vf is 12 feet. Assume Vf is the speed at which the top half of the building impacts the bottom half. How did you find the force at which it impacted again?

 

You're not presenting a fact OR opinion. You're stating outright lies.

120 knots above maximum? Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Flight 77 hit the Pentagon at 530 mph or 460 kts. According to Boeing, top speed of the 757-200 is over 600 mph.

More bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies from you. Hanjour had many hours of real flying in multi engine aircraft and many more hours solo flight. Pretending all he has was eight hours in a simulator is just downright dishonest. Not that I expect any less.

More bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies. It didn't "lose" Flight 77. ATC radar picked it up when it entered its airspace. Try to get at least SOME facts straight!

MORE bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies! The FBI confiscated 84 video tapes, only a handful of which were surveillance tapes. The "five lousy frames" is a very old, very tired truther lie because those frames were leaked. The FBI not only released ALL the frames from those cameras, but all other videos that actually showed anything.

WOW! Do you make all this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) up on the fly? First, the 2.8 trillion dollars wasn't "missing". It wasn't properly tracked according to audit results. And why is it truthers are so stupid they actually think computer systems don't get backed up? Absolutely mind boggling. I guess they've never had a real job where they see the efforts people go to to protect their data. Of course, the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim that the plane destroyed these computer systems is just more made up crap.

According to the guy that just lied to us over and over and over and over again. Many of the calls were made from airphones.... you know... the phones on the back of the seats many airlines back then had.

How can it be an inside job when you can't even get the simplest of facts correct and have to make up other bull(*)(*)(*)(*) just to make it more dramatic?

So your strategy is to make up as many lies as possible and hope someone believes a few of them? Funny!

You claiming reputable data is an absolute gas! Try again, but this time try to get at least SOME facts right!

Oh boo hoo. So what. You make up a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*) and then cry about it? Why can't you just deal with the truth?

 

I gave you the link. It is in no way associated with 9/11 and uses standard physics. Here it is again.

Energy = 1/2 * mass * velocity ^ 2.

Energy = .5 * .4535924 (1 pound in kilograms) * 8.49376 (19 mph in meters / second) * 8.49376

Energy = 16.362 joules.

1 joule = 0.737562149 foot pounds which gives you 12.07 foot pounds.

 

Here is the flaw. 2.3 trillion dollars supposedly "missing" but the defense department budget for 2001 was only 366 billion. Source

You would have to take the entire defense department's budget for more than six years prior to 9/11 in order to "steal" 2.3 trillion dollars. Someone is going to notice.

And like Rumsfeld said, the money wasn't "missing". It wasn't tracked up to GOA standards. That doesn't mean it wasn't tracked or that it is missing.

 

well that shows you were off daydreaming and not paying attention to the facts mentioned then.

 

also these people like him are so stupid,they screw up constanty not thinking about what they say before they say it all the time.

 

QUOTE=OmegaEnigma;1060828854]OK, I’ll give it a whirl.
First of all, the “fact”, (not to be confused with an opinion,) that it would be nearly impossible for a trained pilot to fly a supposed 757 jet at over 120 knots above maximum speed capacity and hit a low target like the Pentagon building with that kind of precision was pretty compelling.

How some guy who took about 8 hors of flying lesson in a flight simulator managed to pull it of is nothing short of absurd.

How convenient is it the air traffic control radar, just lost track of the plane over 8 minuets before it hits? 84 surveillance cameras were on and working all around the Pentagon, and yet all we got to see was 5 lousy frames of footage from just 1 of them? Never mind the fact all the video evidence from every surrounding private business was confiscated!

Then what little we did see of the hole in the building showed no sign of the planes wreckage, no sign of impact from the engines on ether side, no luggage, no plane seats, (which always seem to be all over the place in a crash,) and it magically hit the one part of the Pentagon that just happen to house all the computers and offices that might be linked to the 2.8 Trillion dollars that Donald Rumsfield announced was missing the day before.

Add in some of the dinkier parts like the cell phone expert who says you can’t make a call from a jet moving at that speed, and the lady who walked out of the big hole and never saw a sign of a plane, but is being threatened by government officials, and the black box that got damaged and ruined, it’s a compound cover up.

The thing that upsets me is it’s like a domino effect. Once you come to accept that even just the Pentagon attack was a hoax and/or staged event, because it took place on at nearly the same time as the other attacks, you have to conclude it was all in correlation to each other. In other words, the whole thing had to be an inside job, not just part of it.

For me, evidence is about accumulation, 1 thing cannot make or break a case, but when you add one thing after another and another and another, on and on and on, it becomes impossible for me to dispute it.

I always see everything like a big scale, and you take what evidence you get and you place it on that scale as for or against the theory, topic, case, whatever you want to call it, and that’s normally how I lean one way or the other. Whichever evidence accumulates the most reputable data will tip the scale in that direction, except in this case, it’s completely out of balance!

I have my own opinions on what happened and why, but that’s best left for another day. For now, I just feel sick knowing people right here in this country got away with it. All the death, the soldiers thrown into the grinder, the “collateral damage” to so many lives, it was the worst crime in American history, committed by Americans no less.[/QUOTE]



and yet somehow the coincidence theorists say this is all a coincidence.lol.none of any of these facts mean anything to them.just what the corporate controlled media and government institions say that they worship the words of.

 

It doesn't take many hours in a simulator to crash a plane,genius....the hard part was already over,all they needed were basic pilot's skills,which they had

 

Ah, got to be one of my favorite logical fallacies!

 

It's not a fallacy,Jack,it's the truth,,,hard part is taking off and landing....after that it's just steering and tryng not to eff up too badly.

 

Please explain how that is a logical fallacy?

 

yeah,how?????