Will Russia Be Able To Defend Herself Against Chinese Invasion?

Ever heard of PLA Generals Xiong and Zhu?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ens-nuclear-attack-on-US-in-war-of-words.html

China hasn't invaded anyone? Do you think the Tibetans, Vietnamese, Uighurs and South Koreans agree with that nonsense?

 

Aww you fixed the error.

 

I'm faster than you are...even at my advanced age.

 

I had to re login, how old are you?

 

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1. Genrals from all countries do the military posturing thing. It what they are good at.
2. He says if China was attacked. I think any US general would say something similar if asked what would happen if the US was attacked.
3. It is made clear he is speaking in a personal capacity.

 

l. Only one US General has ever threatened to attack China with nuclear weapons. His name was general Douglas MacArthur. He was immediately removed from command in Korea and cashiered out of the Army.

2. No American general would make that threat because he would be stripped of rank and kicked out of the military.

3. There is no such thing in China as speaking personally. These Chinese Generals are members of the Chinese General Staff. They have not been reprimanded and continue as flag officers. The PLA is not the Army of the Chinese people. By its own doctrine it is the armed wing of the Chinese Communist Party. These generals spoke on behalf of the CCP. That's as high as it goes in China.

 

Russia is the largest land mass on earth and china is perhaps the only nation on earth with enough people to invade and occupy it. All they need is a bad sh.it leader to break friendly ties with the kremlin and for whatever reason attack them.

Of course the russians nuke bejing and the usa caught up in war frenzy but hey, its all good.

 

You have forgotten the infamous Pentagon suggestion to Taiwan to bomb the Three Gorges Dam.

In its annual statement to the US Congress, released in May 2004, the Pentagon said that Taiwanese "proponents of strikes against the mainland apparently hope that merely presenting credible threats to China's urban population or high-value targets, such as the Three Gorges Dam, will deter Chinese military coercion."

Please refer to the article headlined "Troops sent to protect China dam" at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3654772.stm

Oh nephew, you are a genius. Why make such a big farce over the deranged rants of a few blockheads in the Chinese armed forces and tertiary institutions? Those loudmouths seem to compete with each other to be the vanguard of democracy and freedom of speech in China.

With regard to this, your most hated Hak Kwai is more sensible and cool-headed than you. He only takes such rubbish seriously if it is uttered by Hu and Wen.

Don't forget. You have also ranted like those loudmouths in proposal for nuclear proliferation and vaporization of Shanghai and Beijing. Your uncle has yet to give you a good spanking for uttering such rubbish.

Please refer to http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/225416-watch-out-china-your-next.html

 

Except for the MacArthur incident America has never threatened China. America has been a status quo power since 1945. However, there is no reason to expect America to remain a status quo power.

The BBC article doesn't mention any American threats against China. Instead, it contains Chinese threats against the American people.

Generals Xiong and Zhu were never disciplined by the PLA for their threats to nuke American cities.

 

You wouldn't have to nuke that dam, you could just hit its weak spots with a couple 5,000 pound bunker busters like the GBU-28.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-28


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of course that will consider as nuke weapon since millions will die in downstream. also you got fly through china air defense 1st.

 

If the Chinese decided to nab all of Russia east of Lake Baikal, the Russians will have to go nuclear or accept defeat.

I suspect the Russians would nuke not only the Three Gorges Dam, but a number of cities as well.

Though the Chinese logistical "tail" is rickety, it isn't that far from Manchuria to the Kultuk gorge, and the Russian Army is decrepit.

 

I wouldn't call Russia's non-nuclear war machine "decrepit". Any noteworthy aircraft, missile or ship in the Chinese military was purchased from Russia or assembled under licence from Russia.

Plus, Russia still has the second largest number of interceptors, attack aircraft, nuclear subs, long range bombers, and ICBMs in the world after the USA.

 

Following are excerpts from an article headlined "Storm across the Taiwan Strait" at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3825927.stm

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Seven and a half lines of text, tucked away at the end of an inch-thick Pentagon report on the military capabilities of China's People's Liberation Army, have provoked a stream of vitriol from China's state media.

The offending passage says political and military leaders in Taipei have suggested acquiring weapons capable of striking against the Chinese mainland as a cost-effective means of deterrence.

Instead, it contains Chinese threats against the American people.

"Proponents of strikes against the mainland apparently hope that merely presenting credible threats to China's urban population, or high-value targets, such as the Three Gorges dam, will deter Chinese military coercion," the report said.

China's state media responded that this was tantamount to terrorism, and condemned the United States for "instigating Taiwan to engage in terrorism to hurt China's core national interests".

The Bush administration of course sees it differently. But the row has again exposed the difficulties Washington faces in balancing the competing needs of Beijing and Taipei.

First, though, a reality check. How likely is Taiwan to launch a strike against the Three Gorges dam?

The theory, at least, is not new. In October 2002 a paper from the US think tank, the Center for Non-Proliferation Studies, suggested that in order to develop a deterrent, "Taiwan could try to develop the capability to inflict unacceptable losses and damage on China through military targets of its own."

"This would require the ability to destroy military, economic, or symbolic targets such as major population centres, Shanghai's Pudong Tower or even the Three Gorges Dam." (End excerpts)

Taking an analogy, suppose you try to instigate somebody to kill your enemy, and that guy is foolish enough to commit the murder, will you bear part of the responsibility for the crime? Will you be haunted by your guilty conscience for the rest of your life?

Please show us which part of the BBC article "contains Chinese threats against the American people".

Once again I have to point out that your most hated hak kwai and all his predecessors were/are more level-headed and cool-headed than you. Your uncle hopes you can run for presidency one day to show them you will be the best president the USA ever gets.

In conclusion, your uncle has yet to discipline you by giving you a good spanking for promoting global nuclear proliferation and suggesting to vaporize (meaning nuke) the Chinese cities of Shanghai and Beijing. You have to pray that your uncle will not "sack" you one day by disowning you as a nephew.

 

A+ 100%

War as practiced in the past is obsolete. You just can not attack major power without risking nuclear war.

The worst thing about trying to pretend to be world police is that it has bankrupted the nation.

The Russians and Chinese figured out that the power game has changed and it is economic superiority as opposed to military superiority that will dominate the future.

I wish we would wake up.

 

When I look at those toys in the picture, I understand why you ask such a stupid question. I really pity the Russian soldiers. Are they are so "low" and incapable in your eyes that you treat them as toy soldiers?

They can definitely defend themselves against any attack including US invasion, otherwise they would have been wiped out by the Americans long ago during the Cold War. Unlike the polar bears (Ursus maritimus), the Russians are in no danger of becoming endangered species.

Please read the article headlined "Why is the polar bear an endangered species?" at http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_the_polar_bear_an_endangered_species

 

Im pretty sure that has nothing to do with him, just totally random.

 

I support Russia, and I think they could defend their territory in the long run. They have better equipment, more advanced technology, and a great track record of expelling invaders.

Russia's biggest problems are demographic, not defense related. Their women refuse to have children anymore, and as such the country could shrink from the current 145 million to 75 million in just a few decades - unless, of course, they elect a populist leader or enact a pro-natal policy that inspires Russians to perpetuate themselves.

Some of the *******s on here will no doubt advocate importing savages from the Congo to solve Russia's demographic problems, just like Europe and the West are doing.


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China has found frack-able oil shale inside China. Currently Russia exports a lot of oil and gas to China.

If China doesn't need Russian oil, they will look at Russia differently.

 

Absolutely not.

I support Russia importing every white Supremist and Stormfront supporter in America.

 

Hey Uncle Kwok,

You and I both know about China's intentions. In the final analysis it's a zero sum game.

A new world has been born. How can America be safe? If its only peer competitor is too busy to bother with America the American people will be safe.

China has used North Korea and Iran to keep the Americans busy. I picked up this strategy by observing the Han.

 

It is not a chinese strategy, they are just countrys which have always had a high tension rate with America. Even if it was, it was a bad strategy they would just be giving us a test run for our weapons.

 

Russia and China have formed an alliance for the better part of two decades now, so such an invasion would be unlikely to take place. The Russians also are supplying China with petrol from the world's largest pipeline.