Zero Evidence that 9/11 Was an Inside Job

Yet 'truthers' remain unable to.

Very telling.

 

I'll stick with science, evidence and sources.

Thanks.

 

The commissioners never said they failed, and they all signed the final report.

Your links are to speculative news reports. Two workers 'may' have received a text, but no one could locate the source? Do you really find that credible?

 

I don't consider the official 9-11 report "fiction".

I consider it well researched and established fact given the people involved had massive resources to investigate and no motive whatsoever to lie.

One of the things that kills conspiracy theories is that the people almost never can supply any possible motive for the conspiracy beyond

"people are bad" or "the government is evil" or "elected officials are corrupt".

Or some weird idea about the Jews or some shadow organization.

The same is true about 9-11. there is absolutely nothing anyone in a position to conspire gained from the attacks.

The U.S. was going to attack Iraq anyway and everyone knew it (President Bush announced his intentions of overthrowing Saddam Hussein BEFORE he was even elected.

Of course, for that matter overthrowing Saddam Hussein was the official policy of the Clinton Admin. ).

Afghanistan was already a much despised, pariah nation BEFORE 9-11.

Anyone remember them blowing up the giant statues of Buddha or the executions in the soccer station, or the savage repression of women? This was all in the news well before 9-11.

 

You accept the narrative because you don't like the implications that are a result of believing something other than the "official" BS story...isn't that correct? You can say you don't believe something or you do but, if you've made up your mind before the fact, what's the point of entertaining in any fashion, something other than what you believe?
In other words...your truth is your truth...no matter what. What would be the point of engaging you in a conversation to discuss the subject at all? You've decided what it is or isn't already. Your mind is closed to anything else. This is the main theme with a lot of you "official" BS believers. You can't believe something as treacherous as what is inferred with anything outside the "official" BS story, so you just shut door and ignore anything that deviates from the preconceived notion. Right?
The "official" report IS almost pure fiction my friend, from start to finish, regardless of whether or not you CHOOSE to ignore that fact.

 

Faith Thukun comes in the form of" common sense"as well as in the "god nutty "Ric Satanorum ,target for secular outrage ,Tearepublicans.

 

"Independent Government" department talking to Government is hardly "quality ".Particularly with President Bush Jnr jealous of his Dad!

just wanting to show swartzkoff and powell were wrong ,The 'Throw bombs and see what happens solution is dead 'Bushism is over as it was based on reaganist [Cold War Think}So goodbye Ronny Reagan and 'Supply side Thatcherism .}

Faith Thukun at its worse.

 

the only class capable of reliable recount is the working class ,and 2 workers collaborating each other ,under cross-examination ,I hope,is worth more political Capitial then all of bush's Grunts as politics .mere mention of reaganonomics Bu(*)(*)(*)(*)e economic mumbo jumbo makes me

come on Mods fair crack of the whip thats "Bush\ITE!As in the collective historical POLITICAL TYPE!]Stone the flippin' Crows ,Wheres me dingo i am goin home !LOL!

Both work for me ,ROFL!

 

How is this different from what you believe?

You claim you are pursuing the truth and showing a "healthy skiepticism" yet what you're really doing is showing nothing more than distrust and cynicism.

 

I do not believe our government could keep that kinda secret, we just had too much intel, buried inside that intel was the warnings, we just never found them in time, or never verified them as credible in time - jmho

prior to 9-11 hijackings were fairly common, this was new, now that the passengers know they may die... notice this has never happened again

 

There is so much gross ignorance in this post it is unbelievable. The two people in charge of the Commission said:

"So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail."
http://web.archive.org/web/20070108233707/http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/911hamilton.html

Why don't you point us to the chapter on Building 7 as found in the Report?

Why don't you show us Mineta's testimony?

Why don't you explain why Cheney and Bush would only agree to meet with the Commission under three strict conditions? I'm betting you don't have the first clue as to what they are. Now go Bing and pretend you did know.......

There are many other things to point out but the last one is motive. The Neocons laid out a clear agenda but it needed a new Pearl Harbor. Four decades ago our top military leaders in the Pentagon drew up a false flag OP to justify invading Cuba. How can you be so in the dark yet find the audacity to even discuss this subject? Aren't you embarrassed?

 

In case you haven't noticed, they couldn't keep it a secret.......

 

Isn't that the truth! Apparently people can't even yell "Allah is great" on a plane without getting tackled by everyone able to get their hands on him.

http://www.khou.com/news/Two-arrested-after-disturbance-on-Continental-flight-139932593.html

 

Really? So you can produce evidence your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories are true? No? Dang.

So you have one of the tens of thousands of people involved to finally come forward and admit their part in the conspiracy? No?

Hmmm.

So you must still be talking about the retarded opinions of truthers where they pretend they know more than everyone else because they need to be able to claim SOME small success in their lives even if they know it isn't true.

 

I didn't think you had the guts to give a straightforward answer. Your response was so vague that any evidence presented can be dismissed. But no worries, you did exactly as I suspected so no disappointment.

 

Basically, yes. I still don't know what to think about the Towers but if they were brought down intentionally then we dont need to speculate months of prep work if the people knew jets were going to take out several upper floors.

If explosives were used by insiders I wondered why not blame al qaeda for those as well? I think it is because it would have been difficult to sell the idea al qaeda looking people had enough access to plant bombs.

One thing that had me looking at this was the lower level explosions. From what I remember, there was no elevator shaft that ran the height of the Towers. So, if elevators had explosions o. the 20th, 10th, or basement levels, how did that happen since the planes impacted far above those shafts? One of my clients told me how he would get off at the 50th floor to get on the elevators that would take you the rest of the way. One plan hit 40 stories higher and I believe the other was 25.

 

Once again, what does a "plan" (basically little more than an idea) that someone had FORTY YEARS ago have to do with 9-11?

In regards to Vice President Cheney and President Bush, they by themselves make up approximately one third of the U.S. federal govt. There is a longstanding tradition in the U.S. (due to separation) of powers that the President and Vice President do not subject themselves to interrogation except under specially restricted conditions.

Conspiracy advocates should try to think and reason more.

 

Impersonation is the greatest form of flattery.

 

So why did all the commissioners sign their names to the report?

Truthers love to pretend that anything negative said during the investigation proves the investigation is wrong, yet not ONE MEMBER of the commission believes the truther bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories.

Easy. Unfortunately for you it becomes quite clear that everyone is talking about shoot down orders, not stand down orders.

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Truthers LOVE to purposefully and blatantly lie their asses off about "needing" a new Pearl Harbor, and then they run like little girls when confronted by the truth.

The full quote is "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor". Nowhere does it say need.

As for Operation Northwoods, I always find it hilarious that truthers can't tell the difference between people almost five decades ago and the people now. Apparently they think the same people are still around. It is a retarded ASSumption made on their part that an almost five decade old plan that was shot down back then and was radically different from 9/11 somehow proves the government was behind 9/11.

 

OP Northwoods was just an "idea?" Goodness, have a good day. If you ever find the balls to actually address my post then I will address yours.

 

Well, first you would have to prove that people knew that jets were going to hit at all much less in a certain prearranged spot. And using jets at all at that point involves unneeded complexity if explosives on a couple of floors will do the job.

Exactly. Much fewer people involved.

Why would that have been a difficult idea to sell? Was seeing people of Middle Eastern descent in the New York area something new in 2001?

I would think selling that idea would be infinitely easier than convincing the thousands of people that would have to be involved if you think 9/11 was a giant conspiracy.

 

Not when you do it better than the original...

How was what you call "Operation Northwoods" more than an idea or plan?

I forgot about all the terrorist incidents conducted in the United States by the U.S. military and blamed on the Cubans?

Perhaps you could list those......

 

you just repeated the dodges...

 

I assume given that you are refusing to answer the question that you will admit that Operation Northwoods was NEVER more than an obscure "plan" and nothing ever actually took place.

I accept your concession no matter how reluctantly you gave it.....

 

And those are types of people you have to leave behind.