Zero Evidence that 9/11 Was an Inside Job

It's obvious aircraft was the primary tool and they would not have to hit exact floors.

Why would it take thousands of people to be involved in a false flag?

The point of this was to show it would not take months of planting bombs to bring down the Towers and I think you seem to agree on that.

 

When you address my full post I will address yours. Don't think you are fooling anyone by dodging....

 

How is it they wouldn't have to hit exact floors? It takes demolitions companies MONTHS to plan out and execute a controlled demolition. Something completely random like a plane hitting on any floor would throw everything off.

I think it would take tens of thousands. You would have all the people involved in the planning of, setting up of, execution of and most importantly coverup of the conspiracy. You had thousands upon thousands of people involved in the investigation and cleanup of 9/11. FBI. NTSB. Local contractors. Rescue workers and first responders. FEMA. People at American and United Airlines. People at all levels of the military. The 9/11 commission and all the people who assisted with that. The list goes on and on.

Sure it would. First you have to GET the explosives into the towers. Bomb sniffing dogs were on duty 24x7. Bomb scares just prior to 9/11 increased the number of bomb sniffing dogs on site. Access to the core columns was not easy and cutting charges don't work unless they are actually in contact with the steel.

Then there is all the wiring one has to do to tie all the charges together so they go off at the same time.

Truthers have absolutely no clue what it would actually take to execute their retarded theories.

 

Funny how you demand others address your posts yet you run like a little girl from my posts. Why is that?

 

You claimed the Commission had unlimited resources and I proved that flat out wrong. But keep dodging because all you are doing is showing it is hard to honestly defend the official conspiracy theory.

 

No you did not.

Like most conspiracy mongers, you run away or insult when confronted by the truth or called out on your lies.

Case closed.

 

I already posted the link showing the two co-chairs said the Commission was set up to fail. Keep ignoring that. You have just earned Pat911 status....you're so dishonest your posts aren't worth reading.

 

They did not say what you claimed they did.

 

Apparently SS doesn't know the difference between honesty and dishonesty. Like pretending comments made by committee members DURING the investigation are what they believe AFTER the investigation is complete. THAT is complete dishonesty. Will he address it? No. He will run from it like he does everything else. That is why he ignores my posts. He knows he can't address the truth in them, so he has to pretend my posts are dishonest.

Oh well. Nothing like truthers destroying their own credibility by running away.

 

hey Patriot911,


Say hypothetically you're wrong as hell and we all find that the WTC was indeed an inside job, would you then be upset about being lied to by the Government?

Or would you go along to get along to save face?


Just wondering. because I run into a lot of people like you that are dead set against ANY sort of wrongdoing by the US Government. they just flat refuse to believe the US Gov. could turn on it's own people like that. are you like that? or are you open to reason?

the Svengali Effect is in effect.

 

Concerning the topic and Truthers in general......


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

 

I've already answered that numerous times. IF there were actual evidence the government was behind 9/11, I would be in front of the line demanding answers and demanding those responsible hang. Is that clear enough for you?

I know the government has a long history of doing bad things. Giving Indians diseased blankets or slaughtering them wholesale. Programs like MKUltra. There is no doubt the government is perfectly capable of bad things. But unlike truthers who wish so much to believe the government (or Jews or whatever badguy they don't like) is behind 9/11 that they ignore all the evidence and the complete lack of evidence that they are right. THAT is a seriously retarded way of going through life.

Yes, the likes of Alex Jones, David Ray Griffin, Judy Woods and Richard Gage certainly have the truther community under their collective spell, don't they. How else do you explain people totally committed to an idea they can't define, agree on, have no evidence for, and makes no sense whatsoever?

 

...or concerning the topic and apologists in general.

 

Rubber/glue does not apply here.

Carry on.

 

So have you actually produced any evidence yet? Still waiting for a truther.... ANY truther..... to man up and actually produce a single piece of good evidence.

 

Apophenia is a good example of where Occam's Razor is neglected.

In order for a conspiracy to be true, a lot more things have to be true than for something as simple as terrorists getting through security.

Not everything that happens in life is part of a bigger plan. Sometimes, mistakes made by multiple people lead to tragic consequences.

The hubris of the elite is that they believe they have control over everything. They don't. They'd often want you to believe they do, but they make mistakes just like the rest of us.

 

Oh, that's really intelligent. Did you pick that up from some first grader?

 

I'll just say that there are too many things that went 'right' for the hijackers and too many things that went 'wrong' for the government for it to be anything other than the Mother of All Coincidences. I don't believe the investigation was thorough and the official story defies common sense on many levels.

I won't go into all the details (we know what they are), but a $15 million investigation started over a year after the crime was committed is completely inadequate. Most reasonable people that doubt the official story simply want a complete and transparent investigation. That is not too much to ask for.

 

Apparently you missed my question.

So have you actually produced any evidence yet? Still waiting for a truther.... ANY truther..... to man up and actually produce a single piece of good evidence.

As for NAB's comment, it was spot on. Truthers pretending they can use similar tactics on debunkers is what is childish. We're not the ones playing connect the dots when there are no dots. That is truthers. Nor are we apologists unless you want to claim we are apologists for the truth. I can't speak for everyone, but I go where the evidence leads me. Not what the government says. Not what the media says. Not what Jones, Woods, Gage et. al. say. The evidence.

That is why we ask you truthers for evidence. You have none. We know it. You know it. You know we know it. So you play childish games instead. So be it as long as nobody actually starts believing the crap theories you push.

 

You tell me. You're the one who attempted the rubber/glue stratagem.

Before you attempt to make comments concerning one's intelligence, you might consider the level of effort you put into your initial response.

Protip: "...or concerning the topic and apologists in general." does not fall into that category.

It could be considered a thoughtless response in an attempt to bring a level of equality to the topic from those who lack evidence though. Truthers are not shy about attempting to create a "wedge" of that type in equating their "evidence" with actual real evidence.

Anyway, apophenia?

 

The defining treatis of apophenia.

Thank you for admitting your theories are based on paranoid delusions.

Oh come on! I can't believe truthers still try and pretend fifteen million was all that was spent on the investigation. It was HUNDREDS of millions of dollars for the FBI investigation alone since they had over four million man hours in the investigation as of June of 2002 and the investigation wasn't even over. Then you had the tens of millions of dollars in the NIST investigations. One also has to understand that the 9/11 commission itself said it only needed 11 million.

Sure it is. You already blindly dismiss the original investigation for no reason other than you don't like it. When a new investigation shows you the exact same results, you will reject that as well and for the same reasons.

So why should we spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a NEW investigation when truthers can't even begin to prove the original was in any way fundamentally wrong?

 

The whole point is not to satisfy YOU. The point is to have a complete investigation into this. All these threads do is go tit for tat. It's a useless exercise. What happens is one side says something, the other side 'debunks' it, then that debunking gets debunked.

It's way past time for all the evidence to be thoroughly investigated, including that which causes concern among the many professional groups that have expressed doubts with the official story.

 

And what are your theories based on? Rachel Maddow and Shepherd Smith?

 

The evidence. Try it sometime. I don't have to rely on people like Alex Jones to tell me what to think even though there is no evidence to support their theories. All I need is the evidence and some common sense and the ability to do my own research to tell me what happened on 9/11. Don't you wish you could say the same?