Zimmerman Police Video Part II ~ Zimmerman Attorney Response

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  1. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    Didn't help he claimed of someone he didn't know, that: "All the ********s get away."

    That's an aggressive stance. And it shows the state of his mind when he went in pursuit of Trayvon.
     
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    Where are you getting this "chase" from?

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  3. Samuel Democritus

    Samuel Democritus New Member

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    Unless the cops come out and say that they allowed him to change clothes e.g. for evidence submission of the bloody clothes, it doesn't explain why he has no blood stains on his clothing.
     
  4. Talon

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    On the other hand, four hours is enough time for his eyes to start turning black if he had a broken nose...
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Why should he have been sitting in jail? What is the precedence? He had Florida's equiv of an ACD on his record. The police stated they believed it was self-defense. No judge would remit him to custody on that.

    Equal justice under the law.

    Now, if you don't like how the "justice" system works in practice, that's fine, but we have to apply it equally.

    Bail is set high or denied when there are felony records, strong indication of motive and intent to continue criminal activity, chance of leaving the country.
     
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    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...mmerman-shortly-after-trayvon-martin-shooting

    On this video it shows the back of his head and jacket where there is no marks or grass... Also, in the station the video isn't as "grainy" and you can clearly see that Zimmerman has no injuries whatsoever!!!

    As I stated... He should have stayed in the car... Now... He will be raped repeatedly in jail for not following orders...
     
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    His nose would also be swollen up considerably and very likely have gauze in it. Broken noses bleed like crazy.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Not only are we all forensics and legal experts, but now medical experts? I'm not picking on you...

    I had my nose broken in a fight and it bled. I had my nose broken playing basketball and it didn't bleed, so I didn't realize it was broken. I had my nose broken playing hockey and had blood and two black eyes.

    "Broken nose" is not medical terminology. It is something lay people use to describe any number of maladies that arise from contact with the nose.
     
  10. Samuel Democritus

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    The phone call with police that Zimmerman placed. He says he is following TM. Then he tells the dispatch that TM is starting to run and he is going to follow. The dispatch told him not to do so, and he disregarded the advice.

    http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/explicit-zimmerman-call-to-sanford-police/vGZq9/

    very clearly states plain as day, that TM starts running, the dispatch asks if he is following him. Zimmerman replies yes. The dispatch says do not do that and he still does.
     
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    Hey, if TM was so scared, he also had a phone as well didn't he? Was he so in fear the only number he could dial was his girlfriend?
     
  12. Zosiasmom

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    1. Do you feel the police and paramedics were lying? Or are you saying that they were just mistaken in their perception of his injuries having only seen them in person and that you are correct?
    2. Not everyone is raped in jail. He, however, might get killed in jail if everyone keeps this up.
     
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    Well, since we can all read that the attorney said,

    it speaks volumes as to the lameness of your views.
     
  14. Samuel Democritus

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    He killed a kid under questionable circumstances. The police obviously didn't do a good enough job. Self defense does not apply when you are the aggressor. He pursued him listen to the call. That is not defense. That is aggression and as such he should be brought to trial. I am saying he deserves due process, he deserves the protections of the legal system, he deserves a fair shake, and I will not deny that. Everyone has the right to due process. But he committed an act that the evidence points to him being detained until a jury can clear him. Like I said, I am not asserting that he is guilty only that their is enough doubt not to clear him entirely by any means until a jury can decide his fate.

    Audio of the phone call to police

    http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/explicit-zimmerman-call-to-sanford-police/vGZq9/
     
  15. SkyStryker

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    Can you show us how many young black males were convicted of crimes in Z's neighborhood in the year prior to his murdering Martin? Not a single Z defender has answered this question after it has been asked at least ten times.

    What exactly does it accomplish anyways? You think you could use that to justify Z chasing him, assaulting him, then murdering him?????
     
  16. Samuel Democritus

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    I did not see that quote. The only quote I saw was that the footage was too grainy and no further comment. That is usually a cop out. My view is Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty but there is enough doubt on his innocence for him to be detained under suspicion of manslaughter until a trial can be held. Sorry if you think my view of someone who may have committed murder being detained and given due process "lame".
     
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    Ok, that's following. Where is the chase part that you said happened?

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    Too grainy? Did his lawyer see the same video everyone is talking about? The fact he was able to be "cleaned up" so quickly with no residual injuries helps prove he was lying and definitely proves all the people claiming he was "being beaten bloody" were talking out their Obushamas.

    What is the reference for the 4 hour time frame?
     
  19. SkyStryker

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    Lol!!!! You back to this old ruse???

    Tell us again how Reuters invented "white Hispanic" to be used to describe criminals JUST for THIS story???????
     
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    Exactly, he could have called 911.

    Zimmerman had every right to call the police and try to keep Martin in sight until the police arrived.

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  21. Talon

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    All true, which is why I stated earlier that the video isn't conclusive, however, I'm not seeing signs of anything that would lead me to believe that Zimmerman was battered in a manner consistent with his story...
     
  22. Samuel Democritus

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    Why does it matter who he called? He told her he was being followed didn't he? A genuine distrust of cops may have been the reason why he didn't call 911? Given the circumstances regarding the Sanford PD

    e.g. right here proving this isn't the first time the SPD has allowed something like this

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/14/trayvon-martin-sanford-florida_n_1345868.html

    I wonder where that distrust came from? The fact a homeless black man was assaulted by a police officers son in Sanford and allowed to walk free until a youtube viral video proved the officers son assaulted him beyond a shadow of a doubt. Or the one where also in Sanford a young black man was shot in the back and killed (remember that it was his back) by the son of another officer and a volunteer officer who also both claimed self defense and walked. Shooting someone in the back isn't usually self defense.
     
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    No one seems to be able to answer it.

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    Z did not have to believe that. He didn't even have to say he was in any fear at all. You've been following this case for this long and you STILL fail to comprehend the basics.
     
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    Tell us again how Reuters invented "white Hispanic" to be used to describe criminals JUST
    for THIS story???????
     

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