Well, now you think Israel is a democracy. Congratulations on finally advancing your knowledge of political science to such a reasonable degree. Guess we won't have to put up with the idiotic claim that Israel is fascist any longer.
Israel is not a democracy and the only people who think it is are supporters of Israel. It is an apartheid state as attested to by many UN and Human rights groups reports into it and anybody denying that is just not dealing in anything factual. Israel: Segregation, discrimination and forced displacement This is Israel in 2012 according to a top UN body. Using unprecedented strong language, the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) criticised Israeli policies in terms of “apartheid”, as part of their published observations following a regular review. Affirming the kind of analysis that Israel’s advocates try to dismiss as lies or rhetorical excess, the Committee slammed Israel for violating the right to equality in numerous policy areas. CERD described “segregation between Jewish and non-Jewish communities”, a lack of “equal access to land and property”, and “the ongoing policy of home demolitions and forced displacement of the indigenous Bedouin communities” in the Negev. The lack of a “prohibition of racial discrimination” in Israel’s Basic Law was highlighted, and more recent developments, such as the restrictions on family unification affecting Palestinian citizens were also part of CERD’s wide-ranging criticisms. The Committee’s observations also covered Israel’s policies in the Occupied Territories, showing how the same discriminatory patterns are found on both sides of the Green Line. Israeli settlements in the West Bank form part of a regime of “de facto segregation” severe enough to cause the Committee to remind Israel of the “prohibition” of policies of “apartheid”. http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/03/21/israel-segregation-discrimination-and-forced-displacement/ New UN report shows sharp rise in Palestinians uprooted by Israeli demolitions Almost 1,100 Palestinians, over half of them children, were displaced due to home demolitions in the West Bank by Israeli forces in 2011 – over 80 per cent more than in the previous year – according to a United Nations report released today. “Demolitions and Forced Displacement in the Occupied West Bank,” prepared by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), adds that an additional 4,200 people were affected by the demolition of structures related to their livelihoods. The report states that Israeli forces destroyed 622 structures owned by Palestinians including Israeli forces destroyed 622 structures owned by Palestinians including homes, animal shelters, classrooms and mosques – a 42 per cent increase compared to 2010.homes, animal shelters, classrooms and mosques – a 42 per cent increase compared to 2010. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=41051
I think that any reasonable reader would agree that your attempt to conclude the above from that which I wrote, below, is a good example of neozionist worm-speak. Israel is under the rule of a fascist regime. As Ahmadinejad reiterated, it will disappear from the pages of time.
No, you stated quite clearly that the zionist regime was a democracy. Any reasonable reader would actually comprehend what you wrote. No, I'madinnerjacket said the zionist regime would disappear from the pages of time, which means wiped out. Once again I catch you projecting. Wormspeak seems to be your forte.
OK, let's amplify your worm-speak so that others may judge it. Show us the quote. Will you be hanging around afterwards ?
As I, unmistakenly , qualified in my original statement, Zionism won the popularity contest in 1947/8. Accept being wrong. It's good for you, long term. OK, that's that sticking plaster dealt with.
That settles it then. Netanyahu is attempting to interfere with the US of AIPAC elections. Romney's associations with Zionists should be investigated.
Please be specific, do let us know what exactly Netanyahu is doing to influence the outcome of the upcoming US elections. Try to stick to facts, not insinuations and hearsay, take your time to research the issue and TIA.
This is not your strong suit, dude. There isn't a single nation in the entire middle east -- other than Israel -- that allows Jews and Christians to worship freely. If you try to bring a Bible into Saudi Arabia, it will be confiscated and if you have more than one, you can be arrested for prosletyzing. Christians and Jews in most ME nations are not allowed to fix their buildings, required to pay a special "right to live without being a muslim" tax, and quite often subject to harrassment if not arrest for being a non-muslim. Those human rights violations will get you on the UN human rights panel to pass resolutions condemning everybody else. No one will say a word when Copts are shut out of the Egyptian equivelent of the Constitutional Convention, but that doesn't count as a rights violation. I'm sick of the double standards. No one says a word when Iranian Christians are arrested for the "capital crime" of being a Christian, yet we have lots of tears when Israel doesn't want Jewish kids living next door to a muslim. How about you give us a call when Saudi Arabia allows Christians to own Bibles and Iran stops executing Christians? At least then we know that this is about ACTUAL human rights, and not using the UN as a weapon against Israel.
Not my strong suit? You have not presented any evidence that the reports are not true so I will take it that you do not have any and take the reports that I posted as true. That you had to go off the subject that was being posted about and post something totally different about other countries says that you have no argument against what I posted and linked to. You are just trying unsuccessfully to deflect from the truth about Israeli human rights. Another feeble argument and another fail.
Hmmm. democracy = popularity contest= zionism victory I know that Israel's first election wasn't until 49, but it seems either you didn't or were just sloppy. your recognition of Israel as a democracy is further reinforced with the reference to "palestine's turn", as you could not possibly be suggesting that the palestinians could achieve what they most desire by force. Sometimes you just tie yourself up in logic knots. The weaseling is amusing.
Excellent post. Lest we forget that non-muslims are banned from Mecca and Medina, only muslims are allowed to enter. And the silence of Israel hating self-proclaimed human rights/international law hypocrites in response to this discrimination is deafening.
PALESTINIANS already HAVE a STATE. It's called the rest of the middle east, excepting Israel. Pfffttttttt!!!
This garbled nonsense typifies a neozionist on the back foot. Again, show us what inspired the bollox below; Jonsa; I certainly do not think so and I suggest that your idiot comment constitutes trolling.
Democracy is a popularity contest. zionism won the popularity contest in 1947/8 ie zionism is democracy.
Moronic? that was the only logical conclusion. Your freudian slip betrayed your true views, you do know that Israel is the only democracy in the middle east, you're just not willing to admit it and slandering an entire country on behalf of your Islamofascist masters instead.
Again, Israel's is a democracy for Zionists. Its 25% arab citizens object to it being called a ' democracy ' at all. Borat; 'Freudian ' is a proper noun.
The arab citizens of Israel vote, have their own parties and organizations, have freedom of religion and speech, the Arabic language is one of two official languages in Israel... Most of them want to remain Israeli citizens and I don't think they've nominated you to speak on their behalf. 'Freudian' is not a noun. Oh and btw Freud was a jew, you know. Lol
Not to mention this so called "state" policy of eliminating Israel as its goal. Absurd to give recognition to a nation whose purpose is the elimination of another nation. Unfortunately, that is precisely why they do.
You may well be correct with your last statement, JB. But could you clarify your own view on the historical facts. Like the following: # Lebanon 1982: Was it rockets lobbed on Israel that started the invasion and led to the Israeli genocide? Or is that a Myth promoted by the filtering of mass media facts? What was Begin’s reason for the invasion? Was it flawed? Did he lie to the Knesset. Did he dupe the ‘Murkans like Bibi did at 'Oslo'? Or was it indeed the ‘lobbed rockets’ that triggered it. I say it wasn’t. If you don’t agree, let us start a thread to debate the facts. # After Hamas had won the democratic PA elections in 2006, was this democratic process allowed to run its course? Was that a democratic action by the democracy-loving (LOL) West? Did any interference directly lead to renewed rocket lobbing on Israel? If not, then Hamas was remarkably restrained for a ‘terrorist organisation, not so? If you don’t agree, let us start a thread to debate the facts. # Egypt brokered a cease-fire in mid-2008. Who broke that cease-fire? Was it that rockets were lobbed on Israel in large numbers by Hamas? I say that it was not. If you don’t agree, let us start a thread to debate the facts. # What fundamentally led to the massacres perpetrated by Israel in Operation Cast Lead in early 2009? Was it rockets lobbed at Israel? I say not. If you don’t agree, let us start a thread to debate the facts. If you don’t disagree, then why did you make the post referenced at the start? If you do disagree … then say why, and let the debating begin.
