Afghanistan: Smart Political Move by Obama

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  1. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    Just remember the people that have family and friends in the military covers much of the country. We will see if that is an influence.
     
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    That is crap. We can leave in away that leaves Afghanistan with a military that can defend against attack. If Iran tries they will be met harshly by us
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The last known place Bin Laden was seen was an american hospital
    in Dubai.He had kidney problems,probably Marfan Syndrome.
    It was common knowledge that the tall Bin Laden 6'4"- 6'6" was
    using dialysis.There was no mention of any Dialysis device in that Compound.
    Those with the Kidney problems Bin Laden had,normally live 5 years tops.
    Important people like Walter Cronkite and Madeline Albright both said Bin Laden
    was On Ice { Body held in cold storage } for some political use in the future.
     
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    I understand that but there minds are already made one way or the other. I do not see this causing traditional republicans to vote for Obama. Neither will it cause democrats to vote republican. Most independents have other issues that will determine who they vote for or stay at home.
     
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    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

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    The same military that shot two of our officers in the back of the head in a compound?

    Iran has more authority in Iraq than we do I do not see them having to face us. The helped them kill us in both places and we did nothing. Why would that change?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bin Laden's body dumped at Sea due to some Muslim tenet was bull.That applies to
    Muslim who DIE at sea.Not on Land.
    Plus those aboard the ship that oversaw the burial later complained and were given
    dishonarable discharge.
    A couple months there was a report from a higher up that made the claim that
    Bin Laden's body was secretly flown to the Dover Air force base and then on to
    Bethesda Hospital for a strange autopsy.
    Why did the helicopter at the Compound crash.Why were the helmet cams turned
    off by the Seals.Why not take Bin Laden alive.
    Why the need to make up the faux 40 minute friefight outside the compound by
    Bin Laden with an assualkt rifle and onw of his wives as hostage.
    Then they changed that to Bin Laden was never outside the compound.That there
    was NO Firefight.It all went down in the dark in minutes.
    Why the need for the Situation Room bull where all those had a Live Feed of the
    mission and watched it.Then they didn't.
     
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    I admit I have problems with the operation. I think he should have been captured not killed. I distrust the government but think they would tell a better lie if what you say was true.
     
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    Yes , it was , and there's plenty more on the way , especially after the GOP Convention. I'm looking forward to the debates , now that'll be entertainment.



    Someone always has .


    What in the world is a 'displeaser' ? is that something like a fart ? fartysmile1f.gif so you're saying Ann should have put baby Barry in a sandbox with a doll to reduce a national farting epidemic ?

    An intresting observation , no doubt a part of some sinister conspiriacy theory . .perhaps the one below
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    well said , yes , people will vote with their wallets , but even greedy people respect charcter and persona . . Obama has it , Romney never will .



    you shouldn't listen to so much Limbaugh , that crap ain't good for ya , warps your mind .
     
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    I see so the information from somebody that they know trust and love has no influence. You keep believing that.
     
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    I ran is treading on thin ice. They will soon be dealt with. I doubt Obama will though
     
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    Who are you saying is going to benefit from this republicans or democrats?
     
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    There was a kill order authorized by the President on OBL. Why do any of you think he would be taken alive?
     
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    A unarmed man should be arrested then due process will decide his fate. I see nothing heroic killing a unarmed man no matter how evil he was. It does not sound like the rule of law to me. They could have at least lied an said he was armed it would sound better that way.
     
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    Having OBL shot in the face thus far is the only bright spot in a dismal performance as President.

    If he withdrawals our forces from Afghanistan, that would be a second bright spot.

    So, I would give credit to him for ending that eleven year travesty.

    I still won't vote for him though.
     
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    yes , they did watch it , you can bet on that , , they just want you to think that they didn't . THEY watch everything , they're out there , you know , just waiting , watching , then zappo whappoo . smiley-vault-character-131.gif
     
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    I don't agree with that at all. He still has us committed there till 2114. If pulling out was his main objective, he could pull all of them out now. He wants to make sure the Afghan troops are trained enough that they can defend the country.

    It shouldn't make any difference if he saw the troops first or last as long as he saw them. As a mater of fact, it might have been better if he saw them last just in case there was some last minute agreement that he could pass on to the troops.
     
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    I agree. It's the economy that will decide who wins this next election. Bush senior was riding high after the war in Kuwait when our forces devastated Iraq forces. But that meant little when Bush came up for reelection and he was defeated.
     
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    The GOP. Military always benefits the GOP as seen in Florida in 2000 when Gore tried to stop every military vote he could.
     
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    No he can't. That would show he has no foreign policy wisdom and it would upset many who would see it as making those that died mean nothing
     
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    Yes, I agree that is why I say this will not matter they are not going to vote for the democrats because of the killing of Bin Laden. If anything the ones who voted Obama for opposition to the war will stay home since the democrats seem to enjoy fighting wars these days. People will not switch sides over this issue IMO.
     
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    I used to think that way myself, but allowing more to die for nothing will not change that I am afraid. You can not force people to accept democracy they actually want Islamic law nothing we can do will change that. Unless we allow a dictator to rule without democracy we have little chance to defeat the Taliban. It will be no different than Vietnam after we leave the proxy government will be defeated.
     
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    That does not mean they can not influence friends and family at home
     
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    That is why Obama is not leaving. he is pulling enough out to make people think he is doing something. This is politics not military tactics.
     
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    Even though we will vote differently, I respect an honest and reasonable post - and even a differing opinion.

    I was in the military. I have friends who have done over seven TOD's in Iraq and Afghanistan. ALthough one of them wouldn't vote Democrat if his life depended on it, several others are voting for Obama. they would be disappointed to hear that people back home, think our most patriotic and elite fighting me, plus the pilots, logistics officers, support personnel, intelligence officers, line officers etc... would have all lied about the killing of OBL. That would be a pretty difficult secret to keep within what was literally hundreds of people. If you think the only people there, observing and with a need to know, were the actual combantants, I would bet you have not been involved with or know much about how an operation of that magnitude comes together. But Americans do love a conspiracy theory so I guess it's not surprising.
     
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    The friends and family will listen more to the soliders opinion that that of the media or government.
     
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